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It should be pointed out that what TP filter critics usually intend and use as ammo AGAINST the use of TP - the ability of TP to absorb water - is actually one of it's greater assets!

IF you drive a vehicle in unusual climates or short haul operation, you very well MAY accumulate excess water in your engine - WHAT are you going to do about it? ;)

You CAN change the oil every week or 1000 miles to flush out the accumulated water - or you can just ignore the issue, and accept the greatly accelerated problems the excess water will cause steadily inside your engine...

Is that REALLY what to want in a vehicle that may have cost you several 10's of thousand dollars? There IS another solution!

Sure, TP will absorb more water out of your oil than a conventional filter - why not USE that ability to your advantage? In a scenario where excess water is condensing in your engine, a TP filter can be used. along with accelerated change intervals that will allow the excess water to be absorbed and removed on a scheduled basis - and you would obtain *2* benefits - your oil would be kept water free, and the increased TP change intervals would most certainly also keep your oil far cleaner than typical longer intervals.

Nor is it likely in such situations that the TP cartridge will instantly turn to mush or fall apart as soon as a few drops of water hit it - Frantz used to ship examples and pictures of special conditions users might encounter - higher than normal internal engine moisture condensation was one of those. And unless the oil supply was virtually FULL and loaded with water, the TP can safely handle quite a bit, usually easily enough to track and allow a user to establish a shorter change interval that will work best in his specific situation - and if crankcase water accumulation goes beyond what a TP cartridge can reasonably handle in a reasonable interval, there are far WORSE problems facing the vehicle owner than the brand/type bypass filter in use! :D

TP water absorption is not a liability, used in a properly monitored inspection and maintenance schedule, it's an asset that CAN be of great added benefit for vehicles operating in unusually damp climates or short-haul situations! ;) :D
 
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Also be sure to consider the AMSOIL bypass filtration kit. Prices are listed on AMSOIL's website, but PM me if you are interested in lower pricing on these units, which are a kit specific for Cummins engines, which makes install easy.

-Chuck
 

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Also be sure to consider the AMSOIL bypass filtration kit. Prices are listed on AMSOIL's website, but PM me if you are interested in lower pricing on these units, which are a kit specific for Cummins engines, which makes install easy.

-Chuck
ABSOLUTELY, for guys not wanting the small extra mess and effort common to TP filters like Motorguard and Frantz, the spin-on types like Amsoil are an excellent alternative. :thumbsup
 
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Looks like you and I have come to an easy agreement after all these debates, eh Gary? LOL
AHhh - never WAS a disagreement - I still figure the TP filters like mine are superior, but for guys wanting something easier and faster to service, the Amsoil ones are fine. Main thing is, for guys planning on long-term ownership and high miles on their Cummins, a decent bypass filter is a BIG plus!

(But my FRANTZ is STILL best!) :rof :rof :rof
 

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I did a cut and paste on much of the pics and text in this thread, bringing it over from the TDR where it was originally posted by me. That was a much longer thread, and one issue covered there, but not here, was the oil return I use thru the oil fill cap:



I modded mine with a short length of added copper tubing to extend drain-back deeper into the valve chamber - and also to make the swivel fitting easier to install into the Stant cap.



The Amsoil swivel seen is part # is BP-89 - and Wayne Owen (Amsoilman) can fix you up with one if you don't have another source - I switched over to the same STANT #11111 oil fill cap he uses with that swivel fitting because it wouldn't fit properly to the stock one on the Cummins - the Stant works great, and is available at many auto parts stores.

Some have tried to drill/modify the stock filler cap for oil return, but sometimes that causes leakage due to internal structure of the OEM cap - so use of the solid Stant works much better - and safer! :thumbsup
 

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I was exchanging email with Deb at wefilterit.com, and she mentioned a special she has going on now for the Frantz setups - just in case anyone is interested. :hyper:
 

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I was exchanging email with Deb at wefilterit.com, and she mentioned a special she has going on now for the Frantz setups - just in case anyone is interested. :hyper:
Sorry to be late and negligent in keeping up with this thread - but more time and miles have steadily reinforced my appreciation for my Frantz install. Because of the better filtration the Frantz has provided - and backed by steady oil analysis - I have settled upon a 12 month/12K mile oil change interval on my '02 Dodge/Cummins - so far, so good.

A few underhood changes - here's the latest pic:




YUP - an Amsoil Nanofibre intake filter to replace the previous BHAF, a neat DTT stainless intake tube and base, and the added cooling fin outer covers for the Frantz filter canisters. No big deal - just minor performance and appearance mods.

I like to pass on any late updates from Frantz in regards to products and pricing - I'm in NO WAY affiliated with them, don't sell their stuff or in any way represent them, other than my own experiences as a long-term satisfied customer, and many phone conversations direct to Deborah - and THAT backed by actual use and MANY oil analysis reports.

That said, here's the latest "special" I recently received from Deborah Harley from Frantz:

Hi, this is Deborah with We Filter It! I wanted to let you know that I am offering a $25.00 discount to those of you interested in buying a Frantz Filter for your Dodge Truck!

Give me a call or drop me an email with a number I can reach you at and I will take good care of you with a filter purchase!

We Filter It!

This special is for the month of October.
Again - I am NOT a Frantz salesman - but it might help to mention my name if you choose to contact Deborah, and let her know where you heard about their filters, and this special.
 
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