[pos dodge]

What do you all think. You can see my mods in my sig. Would i be better off with 90 hp or 120 hp nozzles? Oh yeah dont pay attention to turbo, that will change soon enough!

 

[catti05]

With a dual CP3 setup I would go with a set of 120s ...especially if you are goin to upgrade turbo...just get one that will be big enough so u don't fry your ...dynamite diesel makes some good injectors...

 

[pos dodge]

thanks

Thats what i was thinking but i didnt know the downfall as far as mpg's and egt's. But i guess when you kind of go big you shouldnt worry about those things. I was going to go with edm honed. I think thats the same as ddp.

 

[gus's 03]

Thats what i was thinking but i didnt know the downfall as far as mpg's and egt's. But i guess when you kind of go big you shouldnt worry about those things. I was going to go with edm honed. I think thats the same as ddp.

honed and edm'd are 2 totaly diferent processes.
honing is pushing an abrasive media thru it to remove imperfections, smothand polish etc to improve flow.
edm'ing is pushing an electricly charged wire thru the metal to enlarge the holes.

pro's/cons
honeing gets you fuel flow while retaining small holes. this improves atomization, eficency etc. if not done properly, holes may plug resulting in uneaven piston crown temp, or if a verry agresive media is used it gauges the holes out rather than honeing.

edm is part of the process oem nozels are made with, but under extremly strict tolerances. alot of aftermarket edm is done with old medical instuments, and/or by poorly trained personel. it results in jaged holes, poor atimisation, some times the spray angle changes, or they push the wire to deep and it burs partway thru the oposite side.

idealy an edm'd nozel will be cleaned back up afterwards by honeing.

realisticly edm'ing doesnt realy need to be used untill getting into LARGE injectors. you can get more than 120hp worth of fuel with honeing a stock nozel and not enlarging the holes, just refining the hole, changing the sharp square edge to a smoth transition ( think velocity stack)


realistickly on the 90 vs 120 debate, how much do you want, what do you use the truck for, what turbo etc... its realy not hard with dual cp3's to suply enough fuel for 600+ hp on a 90hp nozel, and it'll run cooler in most situations. then again, a 120hp or larger will get more fuel int the cyl in a shorter period of time.......

 

[MAD_CR06]

how are you running Bully Dog crazy larry, and a smarty? Those are both OBD II port programmers....it is impossible to run both of these at the same time.

 

[MAD_CR06]

Are you running nitrous with stock injectors? I would think any smart person would run bigger sticks than getting a dual cp3 setup, because at least with bigger sticks you can run a single modded pump.

 

[QIKDSL]

Don't mean to steal the thread but what size injectors would one run with a HTT 64ss? 90-120?

 

[rufushusky]

What do you all think. You can see my mods in my sig. Would i be better off with 90 hp or 120 hp nozzles? Oh yeah dont pay attention to turbo, that will change soon enough!

You got Dual cp3s, I would get the most out of them and go with the 120s.:thumbsup

 

[pos dodge]

Are you running nitrous with stock injectors? I would think any smart person would run bigger sticks than getting a dual cp3 setup, because at least with bigger sticks you can run a single modded pump.

Yeah im not too smart i guess since i bought the dual kit for 1300 dollars and it was 2 months old. Man im an IDIOT!! Guess i should have waited and got bigger sticks and a modded pump that would have cost me at at least what 1700 dollars? Its called a future investment. Now i can run whatever i want to and not have to worry about fuel issues. What about you? Sorry to be not so smart, im still learning!:lol3:

 

[pos dodge]

Thanx

You got Dual cp3s, I would get the most out of them and go with the 120s.:thumbsup

Thank you, i talked to wickeddiesels today and i think he knows what i need. He pretty much said the same thing you said. Your help is appreciated and is obviously correct.:thumbsup

 

[Luvnacummins]

Yep like rufus said... 120.'s i got 110's and love me.. pulled a 7% grade doing 75 mph and with my set up egt's were at 1180 degrees!!!:hyper::thumbsup

 

[pos dodge]

how are you running Bully Dog crazy larry, and a smarty? Those are both OBD II port programmers....it is impossible to run both of these at the same time.

I never said that i was running both of them at the same time. And im not running nitrous on stock injectors either. Since you obviously read my signature you would see that it says NO BOTTLE. I got the kit from someone on here and it didnt come with a bottle. Im still figuring that situation out.

 

[MAD_CR06]

Sorry to be not so smart, im still learning!:lol3:

One more time.....How are you running Bully Dog and Smarty?:rof

 

[pos dodge]

Funny

One more time.....How are you running Bully Dog and Smarty?:rof

Your a funny guy!! Yeah i run bullydog monday through friday and then switch to smarty on the weekend. But late on sunday night i sneak out to my truck when its not looking and magically download both of them without the truck knowing. The bullydog and smarty court and produce massive horse power. Yeah i wouldnt try it neither. Thats just stuff i have. What gave you the idea that you could run them together? You try it and let me know how it works.

 

[MAD_CR06]

I know you can't run them together thats why I was asking you how you did it......You would be the first person in history to run two ecm's

 

[pos dodge]

?

Mcummins said he put a superchip on top of his smarty on the thread "how does cummins forum feel about smarty." Says he had some weird bugs but gained hp.

 

[MAD_CR06]

That may be true but he was probably running the firefly box, not the downloader. Which in that case can be stacked, The Smarty being "Programmer" and the Superchips "firefly" is the plug in module.

 

[Cwboyfyreman]

This thread is gettin interestinopcorn:opcorn:

 

[pos dodge]

Haha

Yeah your probally right, but if you read the thread he specifically said "SUPERCHIPS programmer". Or how did you put it "programmer"? Man if i ever have a problem do you mind if i private message you for answers?

 

[MAD_CR06]

It is imposible to run two programmers through the OBD II port. Like i said earlier...you would need two seperate ECM's