[StealthDiesel]

I checked everything before purchase. Everything is original. Truck was deleted before as there was an extra nut sitting in the DEF tank X member when I was down there “inspecting.” Also there’s a CSP5 switch hole on a dash panel, and the tail pipe had black soot when I looked inside.

I’ve been underneath the truck and everything is perfect. It’s just the roof. And it was painted so well, I couldn’t tell until I saw the primer underneath.

Nothing else was painted as I would be able to feel feather or hard paint lines. There’s none of that anywhere. Even front fender bolts are spotless clean.

Great to hear..

So it does sound like something minor or isolated that damaged the roof to require replacement.

Fix it all up, as I'm sure you will, and forget about it!

 

[cumminsturbofreak]

Fix it all up, as I'm sure you will, and forget about it!

Yep. Just wondering if I should grind, treat with phosphoric acid, and epoxy prime, or just clean and POR it…

Part of me wishes I never looked up there, but at the same time, I’m happy I caught the rust where it’s at.

I’m just way too picky about my vehicles. @Jaysz28 knows what I mean as he has my old 04 now. I replaced so many things on that truck because it bugged me. Hell, I even stripped the trim off that 04 myself for paint because I don’t trust shops to do a good job.

So I guess the takeaway from this is I still haven’t found the perfect truck. 😂

 

[H3LZSN1P3R]

Yep. Just wondering if I should grind, treat with phosphoric acid, and epoxy prime, or just clean and POR it…

Part of me wishes I never looked up there, but at the same time, I’m happy I caught the rust where it’s at.

I’m just way too picky about my vehicles. @Jaysz28 knows what I mean as he has my old 04 now. I replaced so many things on that truck because it bugged me. Hell, I even stripped the trim off that 04 myself for paint because I don’t trust shops to do a good job.

So I guess the takeaway from this is I still haven’t found the perfect truck. 😂

Por-15 no need to remove the rust just brush a little bit on it will actually kill the rust

 

[cumminsturbofreak]

So I pulled headliner.

It was glued in like a windshield!

 

[cumminsturbofreak]

Did some scraping with a file, cleaned, metal prepped, and rinsed. Now time to dry and apply POR.

I’m wondering if I should use 3M Bedding Compound, RTV, or Silicone gel on light gasket when complete…

 

[cumminsturbofreak]

POR applied.
Going to use 3M Bedding Compound on the clearance light gaskets. I’ve used that stuff inside the Benz trunk gaskets that like to hold water and rust.

Going to use 3M Bedding Compound on the clearance light gaskets. I’ve used that stuff inside the Benz trunk gaskets that like to hold water and rust. Worked well then and we’ll see how it works now…

 

[David Ivory]

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Now I’m going to have to pull headliner and dismount all lights to properly paint and seal it.🤦🏻‍♂️

EDIT: Just wonderful. Looks like my truck had the roof panel replaced at one point. There are metal shaving on top of headliner, and roof is black primer inside when it should be painted. Just my luck. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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Now I’m going to have to pull headliner and dismount all lights to properly paint and seal it.🤦🏻‍♂️

EDIT: Just wonderful. Looks like my truck had the roof panel replaced at one point. There are metal shaving on top of headliner, and roof is black primer inside when it should be painted. Just my luck. 🤦🏻‍♂️

 

[mattswaggs]

@cumminsturbofreak

It’s no big deal, better than my project

 

[7492]

That's

Better yet, don't put salt, brine, magnesium chloride, etc. on the roads.

A side effect would be that people would have to learn to actually drive, so that would probably be illegal.

That's the best answer. Travel at your own risk.

 

[mrbb1]

That's

That's the best answer. Travel at your own risk.

fine and dandy till idiots that don't know how to drive , do and they cluster F the roads and NO one can get thru! screwing us all!
or just imagine the wacko's and there new found law suits, that stop DOT 's from having money to fix pot holes! , as if they don;t have enough excuses now about no money for projects!!
HAHA

I'd just rather MAKE the OEM"S offer better salt protection ,
make them guarantee rust free for 10 yrs, over the 36 months most only have now, cheap rattle can paint can do that!(odds are might be what they use )
a GOOD coating will last a LONG time, over cheap paint!
and its not like its going to stop drive train parts from wearing out, or miles added to a vehicle
but when a 50-70-100k vehicle is rusting out due to salt damage and only has a few miles on it, but is a few yrs old, that's a crime IMO, and a shame! and not everyone can afford a garage to park a vehicle in, nor, do it them selves or PAY to have someone else add a better coating, to prevent itI(as is rust)
at the price of vehicles now, this shouldn;t be asking or expecting too much!


,maybe OEM's can call it a GREENER deal, as won;t be causing as much trash to land fills then too< making tree huggers happy as well!

 

[Jimmy N.]

It wouldn't take all that long for those who shouldn't be driving/can't drive to be sorted out of the system. Survival of the fittest worked great for improving the breed and make people more capable...until we wouldn't allow it, and started to give trophies to everybody.

Better corrosion protection on vehicles won't help with the damage that salt and such does to the roads.

Parking in a garage (I assume you mean heated) is actually worse from a corrosion standpoint than leaving things in a frozen state.

 

[Loki223]

POR applied.
Going to use 3M Bedding Compound on the clearance light gaskets. I’ve used that stuff inside the Benz trunk gaskets that like to hold water and rust.

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Going to use 3M Bedding Compound on the clearance light gaskets. I’ve used that stuff inside the Benz trunk gaskets that like to hold water and rust. Worked well then and we’ll see how it works now…
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Those are, without a doubt some of the worst cut outs for factory installed lights...nay...cab lights in general i've ever seen. Looks like when they updated the cab light design they didn't change the presses for the factory, just handed a guy a hack saw and said "make it fit" I did a better job putting cab lights on when i was 20 and half lit on PBR...wow. But at least that is fixed now, i know the factory lights in my 12 and 05 were much cleaner then whatever FCA is doing these days.

 

[Loki223]

@cumminsturbofreak

It’s no big deal, better than my project

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Putting cab lights on that too?

 

[mrbb1]

It wouldn't take all that long for those who shouldn't be driving/can't drive to be sorted out of the system. Survival of the fittest worked great for improving the breed and make people more capable...until we wouldn't allow it, and started to give trophies to everybody.

Better corrosion protection on vehicles won't help with the damage that salt and such does to the roads.

Parking in a garage (I assume you mean heated) is actually worse from a corrosion standpoint than leaving things in a frozen state.

as much as I would love top agree with you, I cannot
the problem with letting nature sort out those that can and cannot drive in snow
problem is, new idiots will replace those that learned anything, so will always be new idiots blocking and crashing on snowy roads!
that will never solve things

and as for a garage
NO, its Not all about snow protection from rust , but I can assure you having DRY pl;ace to store a vehicle in will add yrs of life to it over parking in the elements all yr!

park your vehicles on wet ground all yr, or damp ground, gravel grass, or such
and that alone will hold more moisture to speed rusting process up, add salt to the mix and even faster rusting out of things!
so havinga garage can be HUGE difference, liek it or not?


if you really don't believe there are better coatings out there that can control rust, your kidding yourself

I have used many that made HUGE differences
coasting metal parts on salt plow rucks with POR 15, a good paint over that and some RP342 over that
and things last substantially longer without rust, over just paint, and I mean MANY many YRS longer!
so, without a doubt, it would be WAY easier to add better rust protection that trying to cure idiots on the roadways,a s much as I would love to see ONLY folks that know how to drive better on roadways, that will NEVER happen,
too many variables in humans that cannot be controlled!

and if you think OEM's cannot do better coatings, think again, some already do NOW!!

have you ever seen HD trucks, dump trucks, tractor trailers things with basically a CDL needed to drive? as an example
and there are plenty of BAD cdl drivers out there too! cannot seem to control that and they are required to do way more testing?? so, getting ruid of BAD drivers is not a solutiion that is honestly viable, even if it seems logical!

BUt these vehicles they run in salt belts and have WAY less rust issue's ,,
WHY??
because they come directly from factory with , better METAL< and better coatings over it, which stops and prevents them from failing as fast to salt and rusting out,!

as too basic cars and trucks made for average drivers.consumers!

so, there is already proof out there its possible to be done!, as its being done on SOME vehicles now!

but just for commercial drivers it seems!(and I had a CDL too by the way)
so, since we cannot control drivers abilities, we can control what products are used in making vehicles, maybe again, having as an OPTION to buy a better coated vehicles
is a more logical and possible solution, and maybe even an expectation we customers should have on new vehicles with these crazy high costs of vehicles these days.
there are a lot o foklks living on FIXED income that don;t have ability to go back to work, due to crazy current prices of things
least they should be able to expect is for things to last and not rot away so fast!

 

[mattswaggs]

Putting cab lights on that too?

Every once in awhile, a visionary comes around and changes someone’s world for the better.
You are that person.

Now I wish I would have gotten the TDI version, I’m certain with the TDI and the cab lights, i could hot shot like the best of them.

 

[Jimmy N.]

Whether a garage helps or hurts largely depends on the climate.

Here the vehicles sitting outside don't seem to corrode any more than the garaged ones. That's a function of low humidity, helped by low levels of oxygen in the air.

When basic unpainted steel stock doesn't readily rust, vehicles don't, either.

 

[mattswaggs]

Whether a garage helps or hurts largely depends on the climate.

Here the vehicles sitting outside don't seem to corrode any more than the garaged ones. That's a function of low humidity, helped by low levels of oxygen in the air.

When basic unpainted steel stock doesn't readily rust, vehicles don't, either.

It was very strange to me, being able to disassemble a vehicle. I am used to going through a lot of drill bits and new bolts.
The downside to vehicles here is how much heavier they are. In the rust belt states, your vehicle sheds weight every year when parts fall off.

 

[Loki223]

It was very strange to me, being able to disassemble a vehicle. I am used to going through a lot of drill bits and new bolts.
The downside to vehicles here is how much heavier they are. In the rust belt states, your vehicle sheds weight every year when parts fall off.

So this mechanic ticket is what you are used to from when you were up north?

 

[mattswaggs]

So this mechanic ticket is what you are used to from when you were up north?

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Oh no. We are would always drive them. No matter how unsafe they were.

 

[Jimmy N.]

Almost forgot about the best part of salted roads; that fantastic berm of slush that's often dividing the lanes and making it a bit tricky to pass someone.

I can deal with snow and ice, which is fun to drive on, but slush can be quite sucky.