Never knew high idle was an "option". If it's cold enough, it will come on. I have a G56, and mine comes on about a minute after starting in the 10 degree mornings. Although when it is 30 or so, it does not come on.
2013 ST 2500 manual high idle
Gang I understand this is a beating horse. However I have come with some confusion about the high idle option on the manual transmission for the 2013 2500. I went to the dealer today it had him activate the PTO and now I'm at the point where do I attach the ground? Some sites say block 22 of the fuse block and others say green wire under the dash does anyone have any guidance to help me with this? I see there are a lot of discussions and from what I gather not much has been done with the 2013 as of yet so I'm hoping there is someone out there can provide me some help I have searched several sites and just a little confused how to take it thanks for the time look for to hear what is going on. :confused013:
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In the Arizona desert, high idle is required to keep the AC cold in the summer.
I don't believe high idle is available for the '10 and up trucks, unless you have an H&S. The grounding trick on previous trucks simply doesn't exist on the '10+.
So, pretty sure no high idle for your '13.
SingleTrackin, we're referring to the manual high idle via cruise control buttons, not the automatic idle up you're referring to.
So, pretty sure no high idle for your '13.
SingleTrackin, we're referring to the manual high idle via cruise control buttons, not the automatic idle up you're referring to.
??? My 13 has manual and auto high idle.I don't believe high idle is available for the '10 and up trucks, unless you have an H&S. The grounding trick on previous trucks simply doesn't exist on the '10+.
So, pretty sure no high idle for your '13.
SingleTrackin, we're referring to the manual high idle via cruise control buttons, not the automatic idle up you're referring to.
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And you have an automatic, huh???? My 13 has manual and auto high idle.
My '13 auto has a manual high idle feature. Just in park turn cruise on and press the set button then accelerate button on steering wheel. It doesn't do it automatically I don't think. Its a 2500. Does it come on when it's so cold. So far I have only seen the coldest at 28 degrees.
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I didn't even know that you could do it manually without adding a switch like in my 6.0 hhaha
I know the option with the AUTOMATIC transmission works and there is an high idle when it is too cold out, this is totally different. If you have a MANUAL transmission and you want to adjust the high idle when ever you need it is what I am referring to. I had read a member done this with his 2010 and most say 13+ has little experience.
I have noticed on my 2013 2500 when I start it if I press the brake pedal it will idle down? Sorry not up to speed on diesels yet
Guys, we aren't talking about automatic transmissions here. We KNOW they have the manual high idle.
Manual trans only doesn't have the feature.
Manual trans only doesn't have the feature.
I don't believe you are correct. He took his truck to the dealer, and had the PTO option enabled. This tricks the truck into thinking it has a power take off bolted to the transmission. In order to use the PTO to its potential, you need to Rev up the engine rpms. High idle IS available with a manual, you just have to enable the PTO option.Guys, we aren't talking about automatic transmissions here. We KNOW they have the manual high idle.
Manual trans only doesn't have the feature.
Plyr you are correct I took it to the dealer they turn on the PTO so that I am able to run a jumper wire to activate the manual high idle function when using the cruise control. From all my research there seems to be 2 School of thought, firstthe fuse block in the engine bay and the other under the dash. You are correct the computer is tricked that the PTO is there. I heard of a switch however that is a few hundred dollars and that the jumper wire is simple to use. So I needing ANYBODY who has done this on a 13+ . once I find out how to do I will dedicate a thread to all the MANUAL transmission guys out there.I don't believe you are correct. He took his truck to the dealer, and had the PTO option enabled. This tricks the truck into thinking it has a power take off bolted to the transmission. In order to use the PTO to its potential, you need to Rev up the engine rpms. High idle IS available with a manual, you just have to enable the PTO option.
Here is a link that has a PDF that shows how to hook an 09 up,
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I dont know if the 4 gen is like wiring?
CarboniteCummins - Articles
I dont know if the 4 gen is like wiring?
If he was correct than you wouldn't need anything..............Plyr you are correct I took it to the dealer they turn on the PTO so that I am able to run a jumper wire to activate the manual high idle function when using the cruise control. From all my research there seems to be 2 School of thought, firstthe fuse block in the engine bay and the other under the dash. You are correct the computer is tricked that the PTO is there. I heard of a switch however that is a few hundred dollars and that the jumper wire is simple to use. So I needing ANYBODY who has done this on a 13+ . once I find out how to do I will dedicate a thread to all the MANUAL transmission guys out there.
Show me ANYONE with a 2010 or newer manual truck that has user-adjustable high idle.I don't believe you are correct. He took his truck to the dealer, and had the PTO option enabled. This tricks the truck into thinking it has a power take off bolted to the transmission. In order to use the PTO to its potential, you need to Rev up the engine rpms. High idle IS available with a manual, you just have to enable the PTO option.
I'll wait.
H&S has it via MiniMaxx on previous trucks, because it isn't a function on manual trans trucks.
You guys are taking about them like it's just a wire that needs grounded, and that was 07.5-09, there is no wire on a 2010+ to ground. Read it straight from the horses mouth...I would be shocked if they changed it for '13.
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/2010-2012-general-discussion/368854-2010-manual-high-idle-3.html
2013 Adjustable Idle Speed Instructions
09/01/2012
Idle Up Feature (Adjustable Idle Control) This is a Diesel only feature and is NOT available on any vehicle equipped with a 5.7L gas engine. Idle up (Adjustable Idle Control) is available when PTO is enabled on the vehicle by purchasing the PTO prep option (sales code LBN) or by having the Dealer enable the feature. It has been developed to aid in cabin heating / cooling or enhance stationary PTO capability by elevating the idle speed upon operator command through the steering wheel mounted cruise switches. If the vehicle was purchased without PTO prep (sales code LBN) and the Idle Up feature is desired, your Ram Dealer can enable this feature provided the vehicle has the required hardware and software. Vehicle Required Hardware/Software If the vehicle is equipped with an automatic transmission: Original equipment cruise switches PTO enabled (by purchase of prep package or by Dealer) If the vehicle is equipped with a manual transmission Original equipment cruise switches Clutch up-stop switch wired to the PCM PTO enabled (by purchase of prep package or Dealer) Operation: Pre-engagement vehicle requirements: 1. The vehicle must be in Park (automatic transmission). 2. Vehicle speed must be less than 2 mph (manual transmission). 3. Brake pedal must not be depressed. 4. Clutch pedal is not depressed 5. Parking brake must be set for manual transmission 6. No active speed or engine faults present (MIL lamp on) To engage, the operator first presses the “Cruise On” cruise control switch. The Cruise light will come on in the cluster. Then press and release the “Set” switch (just like you would do when operating the cruise control feature). This will activate the feature and set the engine idle speed to 900 rpm’s.
09/01/2012
At this point the operator may choose to “ramp” up or down the idle speed. To ramp up,
press and hold the RES / ACCEL (right hand side) cruise switch. Maximum idle speed
(while feature is active) is 2000 rpm’s. At any point while the idle speed is ramping up
the operator may release the RES / ACCEL switch and the idle speed will stabilize at the
value shown on the tachometer.
To ramp down the procedure is the same as when ramping up except, that the operator
will press and hold the COAST cruise switch. Minimum idle speed (while feature is
active) is 900 rpm’s.
When the Idle Up feature is engaged it can be disabled (turned off) by several ways:
1. The cruise cancel switch can be pressed.
2. Cruise off switch can be pressed.
3. Vehicle brake pedal can be depressed.
4. Move the PRNDL (gear select lever) from Park
5. Vehicle speed greater than 2 mph (manual vehicle only)
6. Clutch pedal is depressed.
When this feature is disabled from any method then the idle speed will revert back to the
standard vehicle idle speed. The cruise lamp will stay on until the cruise off switch is
pressed even though the Idle Up feature has been disabled.
The Idle Up feature is the lowest priority between it and PTO operation. If at any time
during active Idle Up the PTO on/off switch is activated the control will be given over to
the PTO feature. For example, if the idle up is active and the idle speed has been set to
1400 rpm’s and then the PTO on/off switch is activated the idle speed will return to 900
rpm’s (Stationary PTO mode). If all conditions are met to engage the PTO, the idle up
feature can then be used to ramp up the idle speed again to the desired level.
If any of the disable conditions are met, the PTO switch must be cycled off then back on
before the Idle Up can be used again.
2013 Adjustable Idle Speed Instructions
Best regards,
T Herder
09/01/2012
Idle Up Feature (Adjustable Idle Control) This is a Diesel only feature and is NOT available on any vehicle equipped with a 5.7L gas engine. Idle up (Adjustable Idle Control) is available when PTO is enabled on the vehicle by purchasing the PTO prep option (sales code LBN) or by having the Dealer enable the feature. It has been developed to aid in cabin heating / cooling or enhance stationary PTO capability by elevating the idle speed upon operator command through the steering wheel mounted cruise switches. If the vehicle was purchased without PTO prep (sales code LBN) and the Idle Up feature is desired, your Ram Dealer can enable this feature provided the vehicle has the required hardware and software. Vehicle Required Hardware/Software If the vehicle is equipped with an automatic transmission: Original equipment cruise switches PTO enabled (by purchase of prep package or by Dealer) If the vehicle is equipped with a manual transmission Original equipment cruise switches Clutch up-stop switch wired to the PCM PTO enabled (by purchase of prep package or Dealer) Operation: Pre-engagement vehicle requirements: 1. The vehicle must be in Park (automatic transmission). 2. Vehicle speed must be less than 2 mph (manual transmission). 3. Brake pedal must not be depressed. 4. Clutch pedal is not depressed 5. Parking brake must be set for manual transmission 6. No active speed or engine faults present (MIL lamp on) To engage, the operator first presses the “Cruise On” cruise control switch. The Cruise light will come on in the cluster. Then press and release the “Set” switch (just like you would do when operating the cruise control feature). This will activate the feature and set the engine idle speed to 900 rpm’s.
09/01/2012
At this point the operator may choose to “ramp” up or down the idle speed. To ramp up,
press and hold the RES / ACCEL (right hand side) cruise switch. Maximum idle speed
(while feature is active) is 2000 rpm’s. At any point while the idle speed is ramping up
the operator may release the RES / ACCEL switch and the idle speed will stabilize at the
value shown on the tachometer.
To ramp down the procedure is the same as when ramping up except, that the operator
will press and hold the COAST cruise switch. Minimum idle speed (while feature is
active) is 900 rpm’s.
When the Idle Up feature is engaged it can be disabled (turned off) by several ways:
1. The cruise cancel switch can be pressed.
2. Cruise off switch can be pressed.
3. Vehicle brake pedal can be depressed.
4. Move the PRNDL (gear select lever) from Park
5. Vehicle speed greater than 2 mph (manual vehicle only)
6. Clutch pedal is depressed.
When this feature is disabled from any method then the idle speed will revert back to the
standard vehicle idle speed. The cruise lamp will stay on until the cruise off switch is
pressed even though the Idle Up feature has been disabled.
The Idle Up feature is the lowest priority between it and PTO operation. If at any time
during active Idle Up the PTO on/off switch is activated the control will be given over to
the PTO feature. For example, if the idle up is active and the idle speed has been set to
1400 rpm’s and then the PTO on/off switch is activated the idle speed will return to 900
rpm’s (Stationary PTO mode). If all conditions are met to engage the PTO, the idle up
feature can then be used to ramp up the idle speed again to the desired level.
If any of the disable conditions are met, the PTO switch must be cycled off then back on
before the Idle Up can be used again.
2013 Adjustable Idle Speed Instructions
Best regards,
T Herder
I'm guessing this is what Joe's 2500 is lacking....2013 Adjustable Idle Speed Instructions
09/01/2012
Idle Up Feature (Adjustable Idle Control) This is a Diesel only feature and is NOT available on any vehicle equipped with a 5.7L gas engine. Idle up (Adjustable Idle Control) is available when PTO is enabled on the vehicle by purchasing the PTO prep option (sales code LBN) or by having the Dealer enable the feature. It has been developed to aid in cabin heating / cooling or enhance stationary PTO capability by elevating the idle speed upon operator command through the steering wheel mounted cruise switches. If the vehicle was purchased without PTO prep (sales code LBN) and the Idle Up feature is desired, your Ram Dealer can enable this feature provided the vehicle has the required hardware and software. Vehicle Required Hardware/Software If the vehicle is equipped with an automatic transmission: Original equipment cruise switches PTO enabled (by purchase of prep package or by Dealer) If the vehicle is equipped with a manual transmission Original equipment cruise switches Clutch up-stop switch wired to the PCM PTO enabled (by purchase of prep package or Dealer) Operation: Pre-engagement vehicle requirements: 1. The vehicle must be in Park (automatic transmission). 2. Vehicle speed must be less than 2 mph (manual transmission). 3. Brake pedal must not be depressed. 4. Clutch pedal is not depressed 5. Parking brake must be set for manual transmission 6. No active speed or engine faults present (MIL lamp on) To engage, the operator first presses the “Cruise On” cruise control switch. The Cruise light will come on in the cluster. Then press and release the “Set” switch (just like you would do when operating the cruise control feature). This will activate the feature and set the engine idle speed to 900 rpm’s.
09/01/2012
At this point the operator may choose to “ramp” up or down the idle speed. To ramp up,
press and hold the RES / ACCEL (right hand side) cruise switch. Maximum idle speed
(while feature is active) is 2000 rpm’s. At any point while the idle speed is ramping up
the operator may release the RES / ACCEL switch and the idle speed will stabilize at the
value shown on the tachometer.
To ramp down the procedure is the same as when ramping up except, that the operator
will press and hold the COAST cruise switch. Minimum idle speed (while feature is
active) is 900 rpm’s.
When the Idle Up feature is engaged it can be disabled (turned off) by several ways:
1. The cruise cancel switch can be pressed.
2. Cruise off switch can be pressed.
3. Vehicle brake pedal can be depressed.
4. Move the PRNDL (gear select lever) from Park
5. Vehicle speed greater than 2 mph (manual vehicle only)
6. Clutch pedal is depressed.
When this feature is disabled from any method then the idle speed will revert back to the
standard vehicle idle speed. The cruise lamp will stay on until the cruise off switch is
pressed even though the Idle Up feature has been disabled.
The Idle Up feature is the lowest priority between it and PTO operation. If at any time
during active Idle Up the PTO on/off switch is activated the control will be given over to
the PTO feature. For example, if the idle up is active and the idle speed has been set to
1400 rpm’s and then the PTO on/off switch is activated the idle speed will return to 900
rpm’s (Stationary PTO mode). If all conditions are met to engage the PTO, the idle up
feature can then be used to ramp up the idle speed again to the desired level.
If any of the disable conditions are met, the PTO switch must be cycled off then back on
before the Idle Up can be used again.
2013 Adjustable Idle Speed Instructions
Best regards,
T Herder
Greg I believe so and thanks Therder for clearing this up, I will have to look from the dealer if that is something that can be added. Wasn't a "need to have" more a nice to have. 
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