175 P-Pump? And 24V P-Pump Build Questions..
What can anyone tell me about the 175 P-Pump? I thought they only had 160, 180 and 215 pumps? What years did the 175 pump come on? Does anyone have any experience using it for a p-pump on a 24V?
Thanks for any advice and help guys :thumbsup:
Thanks for any advice and help guys :thumbsup:
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From what ive heard the 175 and 160 pumps are the same. They were avaliable 94-95 manual trans trucks.
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So they are basically the same pumps? Surely there has got to be some difference in them..at least I would think :confused013:
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Well after a little research it looks like the 160 and 175 pumps are one in the same..the 175/180 pumps use the same plungers, and the 160/175 pumps use the same camshaft.
So who all is out there making big power on a 175 pump? What all do you have done to it in order to do so? Full cut delivery valves, 5kgsk...etc? What kind of fuel are you flowing and what injectors are you running?
Sorry for all of the questions but I am looking at p-pumping my truck and am not really up to speed with the 12V world. Thanks :headbang:
So who all is out there making big power on a 175 pump? What all do you have done to it in order to do so? Full cut delivery valves, 5kgsk...etc? What kind of fuel are you flowing and what injectors are you running?
Sorry for all of the questions but I am looking at p-pumping my truck and am not really up to speed with the 12V world. Thanks :headbang:
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what is your idea of big power? I mean I think a stock 160 pump flows more fuel than a vp44:hehe::hehe::hehe:. Also what is the truck gonna be? DD/ weekend racer or total track?
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700 horse power can be had with a 160, it's all in the tune.
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Twins and a good set of injectors wouldn't hurt either
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Isnt one of jeff garmon's trucks at 700hp on the 160?
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Yup, the truck in last months diesel power is at 711 on a 160 pump that's never been off the truck. That truck is like nothing else, I've ridden in it and it's hard to describe it, 70 mph rolling burn outs handles like it's on rails, stops on a dime. Jeff said it takes a peppy crotch rocket to beat it.
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My truck came from Montana and is a 175 rated engine, the cpl on the plate says mine is a 160 pump. It's just tuned differently from cummins I guess to make 175.
94 -95 auto = 160
94 -95 5 speed = 175
96 -98 auto = 180
96 -98 5 speed = 215
California trucks run the auto pumps so a 94-95 5 speed would be a 160 and 96-98 180
Any other pump is an industrial pump
The 98s are sometimes mismatched as they ran out of stuff anything went on. Thats why you can find 98 ext cab 24 valves.
94 -95 5 speed = 175
96 -98 auto = 180
96 -98 5 speed = 215
California trucks run the auto pumps so a 94-95 5 speed would be a 160 and 96-98 180
Any other pump is an industrial pump
The 98s are sometimes mismatched as they ran out of stuff anything went on. Thats why you can find 98 ext cab 24 valves.
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Looking for 650-700HP :thumbsup:..on a single turbo set up. No twins...sorry
Truck will be turned into a 300 ft. at a time traveler :thumbsup: (track only)..but right now I am dd'ing it. It will undergo the p-pump swap later this summer/fall.
Here is what I am looking at doin
-175 p-pump- will need to be tuned..so where should I send it?
-What fuel system should I go with? Should I just get a 200GPH FASS for a 12V or go with Aeromotive or something similar?
-What injectors? I am thinking 6x.018s
-Hamilton Cam/Or Haisley Cam
-Possibly fly-cut or modded pistons..have not decided yet.
Thanks for any help :thumbsup:
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Call jeff garmon or matt wells. Matts truck runs 660 on a single. If you can get or have the march 2009 diesel world issue his truck is in there. One of those two guys would be a good starting place.
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You could hit that number with the pump never being off the truck. Id go with some 5x.016's, 2095 rack plug (you may not need all the rack travel but It would allow for more tuning room) 4gsk or 5gsk,20+ timing, cam would help especially when spooling a big single. Are you gonna spray:nos:
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NO spray...
Powered by #2 only :headbang:
Ok so here is what I have then
Injectors-
5x.016s...why this size? And not something bigger like a 5x.025?
Pump Mods-
5gsk
What about full cut delivery valves?
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My 94's got the 160 and it's pretty quick with the mods listed below.. I wouldn't consider it "big power" by any means, but it's definitely fun to drive on the street. It's definitely attainable... Injectors, turbo, 4gsk's, timing, etc.. You'd be pretty close. I'll definitely be interested to watch your build!
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I'll be following this buildup... I have a 175 pump that will be going on my truck later this year or early next... looking for about 650 with my twins.
Make sure you get your injectors setup for the Ppump... I know, I know... guys are running unmodified 24 valve injectors in the conversion engines but I think you're ahead to get your injectors setup for the pump... unless you're swapping in a 12valve head and pistons....
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