[dunl]

If an 03 3500 Ram will supposedly fit 35" tires STOCK, why is the tire shop telling me that my LIFTED 03 3500 cannot fit 315/70/r17 Yoko Geolanders on there?

Help please! I have bought second hand almost new tires, but now they won't fit???

 

[nfkfirefighter]

i dont know much about dulies but they should fit on the front at least.. im just not sure about the width for the duel rear tires..?? i would say that they would fit.. imo

 

[HarleyMedic]

Stick em on and go. A 315 willl generally run on a stock truck with no problems except on tight turns hitting hard bump. A rig with 3" susp. lift should be just fine.

 

[dunl]

It's not a dually, it's just the single axle version.

I have 295/70/r17's on there now with what appear to be aftermarket 17" rims (Weld Typhoons, maybe?) When I turn hard to the left, they rub on the flaps. I was planning to move the flaps outta the way.

I bought stock rims, being told that 315's would fit no problem with a stock rim on a stock rig, but now they say they will rub. As I'm going across country this coming Friday, I need a solution.

Is there something that I am missing that would make them pull towards the rear of the front wheel wells?

 

[Hot Stuff]

Your 3" lift will cause the axle to sit further rearward in the wheelwell. Unless you put longer control arms on. This is probly your problem. A 2" kit with stock control arms will clear 315's on stock wheels. But a 3" kit on stock control arms may be to much. Probly hafta lose the mudflaps also.

 

[dunl]

Your 3" lift will cause the axle to sit further rearward in the wheelwell. Unless you put longer control arms on. This is probly your problem. A 2" kit with stock control arms will clear 315's on stock wheels. But a 3" kit on stock control arms may be to much. Probly hafta lose the mudflaps also.

So a set of control arms and I'm probably good to go?

Mudflaps have got to go, but HAVE to go back on, as our local police around here are pretty anal about them. She's not going to be offroading, so not to worried about relocating them.

 

[Hot Stuff]

If you have the Mopar molded mudflaps, there is no relocating them.

Since you have stock rims, and a 3" lift. I ASSUME that control arms will fix your problem.
Did your lift come with arms? Is it a lift or a 3" leveling kit?

 

[dunl]

Crawled under, and looks like I probably have only a 2.5" leveling kit? As it's my first real Dodge suspension to look under, I can't really tell what is aftermarket and what isn't.

I assume that the control arms are usually red, as mine are?

 

[dom42]

go to superlift, they have fully adjustable control arms that are greasable as well. this will help out with you problem. and they will be able to give it a more acurate alignment.

 

[dunl]

I'd prefer not to lift it any higher....I have found locally a set of adjustable LCA's....if they are put on, are there any other steering components that will need changed?

As in, "the foot bone is connected to the ankle bone, the ankle bone is connected to the shin bone, the shin bone.....etc":w:

 

[Hot Stuff]

Do you have a adjustable track bar? That'll be about next on the list.

If your control arms are red, then they've already been changed. Do you have a spacer ontop of the coils or not?

 

[dunl]

Do you have a adjustable track bar? That'll be about next on the list.

If your control arms are red, then they've already been changed. Do you have a spacer ontop of the coils or not?

No adjustable track bar, and looks like there is a spacer on top....black.

Why change the control arms if it's just a levelling kit, and why the lack of space issue?

What all is involved in a BODY lift on these trucks....is it possible they tossed on a body lift with control arms but no real clearance gain?

 

[SmokinTheHippies]

on a 2in leveling kit you dont need to change them. but once you go bigger, like a 3 in. then it is too much of an angle on your stock control arms which is why it would rub. if you put longer/adjustible ones it will allow you to locate the axle back in the appropriate spot. on your "stock" control arms, are they like a tube/pipe or do they look like an upside down U channel? If they look like tubing then they are already aftermarket, if its like a U or a C channel, then its the stocks spray painted.... good luck with this.

 

[SmokinTheHippies]

and if it was a body lift there would not be a spacer between the coil and the coil plate.
you can tell if its a body lift because there will be a hefty gap between the frame rails and the truck bed.

 

[Hot Stuff]

Sad to say, but you may be farther ahead to remove whatever spacer is on your truck currently, measure it, and puting it back on your truck. Then you will know what your truck has on it. A adjustable track bar wouldn't hurt anything either. I have 2" spacers on my truck, with a adjustable track bar, and run 35x12.50 BFG MT's on H2 wheels and have 0 clearance issues. Without a adjustable track bar, 315's on stock wheels will have a little rub on the passenger side control arms due to the axle being shifted towards the drivers side with a 2" leveling kit. Most don't worry about it and just learn to not turn so short when turning right. But the adj. track bar will correct this.

 

[dunl]

Thanks for all the help so far guys.

Okay, the control arms are tube, not c or u channel.

Bear in mind, I'm looking at parts here not knowing what is aftermarket and what is OEM.

Sooo.....comparing to other Dodges I have now looked at, there are actually RED spacers on the top, look like 2" or so (like stated, might need to come out to measure properly). Ignore what I said about the black, must have been really confused.

Only on the front, and there IS a bodylift on the back....horizontal tubing running across underneath the bed.

The red spacers, are not completely round, more of a polygonal shape to them...haven't been able to identify them yet online.

 

[Hot Stuff]

The tubing under the bed is probly not a body lift. Look where the bed actually bolts to the frame mounts. Is there a cylinder shaped plastic spacer? About 3" tall? If it has a body lift, there will be these cylinder shaped spacers everywhere the body mounts to the frame. Front and rear. Not just the bed. I'm pretty sure you don't have a body lift.

As far as front coil spacers, sounds like a typical poly (plastic) spacer. Generally 2".

Back to control arms, the 3rd gen control arms are not U or C shaped. They are more of a rectangular tube. 2nd gen trucks had the U or C shaped arms. They boxed the arms in on the 3rd gens. Are your arms Round tube or more like I described? Any way you can just take pics for us? Would be MUCH easier to help you.

 

[dunl]

I'll try to get some tonight.

The control arms are rectangular tubing.

 

[Hot Stuff]

Yeah. That's what I thought. They are probly the stock arms. Did the tire place tell you exactly why the 315's won't fit? I'm curious. Cause everything you've told me so far, leads me to believe that they will. If you can't get the pics to post up, just email them to me at [email protected] and I'll take a look and see what I can figure out.