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12-12-2019 12:18 AM
dieselbob1 I just went down this road: traded in my 2013 3500 4x4 Laramie Mega CTD for a 2019 2500 4x4 Hemi 4.10 gears Laramie CC in October.

Traded in my 2019 2500 4x4 Hemi 4.10 gears Laramie CC this month for a 2019 3500 Laramie 4x4 CC CTD HO, delivery due at the end of this month.

The 2500 Hemi is the best riding truck I have ever owned but I can not stand the the high engine rpm's needed for it to do anything. I towed my 5000lb. empty trailer for a couple hundred miles and was very disappointed with the fuel mileage and high engine rpms required to tow the empty trailer. The rotary knob for shifting the transmission is a pain, I do not like it while trying to hold my snow plow hand held control and shifting the trans.
Eco mode is also a major pain, in and out all the time, it sends a vibration thru the truck and makes the drivers seat vibrate.

I have spent the last thirty years driving all brands of diesel pickup trucks and was looking to downsize as I am getting close to retirement, not towing as much, big mistake, still getting educated at a price....
12-11-2019 09:39 AM
Rbohno
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I'm sticking with my cummins FWIW. But I do enjoy the back and forth talk.
Great decision, I went down that road 2 years ago. Traded my 2016 3500 CTD for 2017 2500 Power Wagon with 6.4, loved the winch and lockers but missed my CTD.
So traded the 2017 6.4 and am back in a 2019 CTD and glad I made that decision.
12-11-2019 07:55 AM
ronheater70 I had a 6.4. I kept it for 1.5 years. Mine was the 6 speed with 3:73, you are looking at the 8 speed with 4:10.
I Hated mine.. Period. Towing 10K on moderate hills on the interstae was 2nd gear and 5K rpms. Undoubtedly the 8 speed is a big improvement becasue my biggest complaint about the truck was the tranny. It had a tall 1st gear and a large gap between 1st and 2nd allowing the truck to completely fall on its face under certain circumstances when trying to upshift with weight behind it. I know the 8 speed corrected that, But 16K would be a stretch. I know I only towed about 2/3 of its rated towing capacity and it was painfully miserable everywhere but relatively flat ground and the minor hills going to the beach.
I also didnt like the dang engine that while decent performing, made more noises and smoke than an 80's chevy with 260K on the clock at times.
12-11-2019 07:51 AM
Ranprk I'm not seeing the advantage Foster? I have a friend that did exactly what you are talking about doing and went right back to a diesel. the 6.4 I think will do what you want, but i don't think you will be happy over all. My set up isn't as heavy as yours, and I'm not completely happy towing it with the cummins. I can't imagine a gasser? I'd find away to keep your 18 and not double your depreciation. heck selling just one of the 1000"s would take a bite out of your 18. shop around for a lower interest rate and refinance.
12-11-2019 07:34 AM
crhannay It might work if you area flat lander. You will need a turbo diesel if you ever go out west. I live in Afton Wyoming at 6,200' and will never let go of my 2010 Dodge with the Cummings Turbo Diesel.
12-11-2019 01:06 AM
DURT This Gentleman said 1000% TRUTH.............. PERIOD. Been there more than once didn’t LEARN my lesson the first two times NEVER AGAIN!!!!!! Sir not sure what you think you are saving but it’s an endless circle that the finance company’s want you to stay in. IT’S NOT worth it in the end.

There are hidden/built in expenses in trading one vehicle for another. Right now you have an unrealized first year depreciation loss putting you underwater. The trade you contemplate makes that a realized loss, and then you immediately have another on the new truck. I doubt you'll pull much money out of the trade - and the reduced monthly payments you likely expect are an illusion produced by decreasing the amount of your payment going to equity and more going to interest. Put another way you're eating 2 first year's depreciation cost in order to lower your payments. I think you better recheck those "saving considerable amount of money" calculations. You're likely digging a deeper hole for yourself.
I expect the 6.4 will, in a drive-ability sense, get you there and back satisfactorily. I also, expect,if it's hilly country you'll not like the MPG or high revs your running on the uphill grades.
So, here's another approach to think about. Look at all your expenses, and see where you might cut back; dinners out, cable TV/entertainment, etc are good places to look. Secondly look at your debts. If there is one that can be paid off fairly quickly, get that done as soon as possible to eliminate that monthly payment. Then start putting at least a significant part of that payment toward your highest interest loan. Likely the monthly payments on that loan are based on the outstanding balance, so you could over time reduce the amount of the payment. However, I[d encourage, working hard to get that one paid off too.
12-10-2019 05:03 PM
OCBray We just went from a 2018 2500 4WD 6.4 hemi to a 2019 3500 4x2 HO CTD DRW. Wow what a difference. We just retired and are pulling the 5er around the country. We were on the edge of the towing capacity of the 2500. Even after we upgraded the gears to 4.56s. It pulled the trailer fine. Fueling was the breaking point for us. Even at the large truck stop pumps. It was a PIA maneuvering around the cars. We got 8.5 to 9 mpg but still had to refuel every 200 miles. We are looking forward to using the diesel lanes to refuel. We can also add aN aux tank to the bed so we can have enough range to drive in a day.
12-09-2019 02:20 PM
coolbreeze Still flat at 35,000 feet..........
12-09-2019 01:59 PM
the man in black Depends who you ask. Some still believe it is flat
12-09-2019 12:26 PM
Jimmy N.
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Well I have to bow, you have nine years on me. Feels good not to be the oldest in the room.
Finally I understand how you guys could drive twin sticks, and without exhaust brakes;
the earth was flat back then.
12-08-2019 10:38 PM
Dogpatch
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Well I have to bow, you have nine years on me. Feels good not to be the oldest in the room.
@7492 I would hazard to guess there are a great many “Experienced Age” members in the room.

I may or may not be one of them.
12-08-2019 09:02 PM
7492
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Originally Posted by coolbreeze View Post
Every one was driver error.....thats how brakes get hot. My guess is 99.9% of all highway crashes are caused by driver error.
I put more than a few miles on trucks having had a Class A license since 1970. First trucks I drove had duplex transmissions.
Well I have to bow, you have nine years on me. Feels good not to be the oldest in the room.
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