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01-08-2020 08:09 AM
ofelas.5z The few Moog problem solver pieces I've installed for friends seem to be holding up just fine after plenty mileage.
12-31-2019 10:58 AM
24hrsparkey Poly Bushings on trac bars and control arms aint all that .
Cheap to manufacture , but do not last long

Much prefer hard rubber on one end and a Hiem or Jonny Joint on the other . Both items mentioned above .
12-25-2019 11:26 AM
Broncowilly Okay, rock on then.
12-25-2019 02:40 AM
nosympathy
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Originally Posted by Broncowilly View Post
Moog Problem Solver ball joints are good. I've got Problem Solvers in my 2003 and they've got 80,000 miles with zero issues. I grease them every oil change. Nope, nothing wrong with Moog.

I'd suggest 12" wheels and 305/33"+? tires might have caused this issue.
I'm not buying it, mostly because it seems to be a common problem with moog. People with OEM balljoints and my size wheels/tires last considerably longer. I Imagine they've been bad for a while, so I said 20K but it was probably lot longer ago. Their steering linkage only lasted about 15K for me before it was shot. Previous Mopar T style one on there did 100K miles between me and the PO before it was starting to get sloppy.

Other vehicles family members have that have done Moog balljoints, end links, tie rods, etc. Have all experienced early failures. They also have a record of crazy high failures on wheel bearings on my fun car.

Think it's safer to say you are lucky lol.
12-24-2019 10:39 PM
Broncowilly
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Originally Posted by nosympathy View Post
so this is what my upper balljoints are like. Seems like a lot of play for 20K miles. Definitely not buying Moog ever again 🙂. Put in a set of EMF to replace them and they are nice. Feels like a whole new truck now.

<Img>https://imgur.com/gallery/RF4qVUX
Moog Problem Solver ball joints are good. I've got Problem Solvers in my 2003 and they've got 80,000 miles with zero issues. I grease them every oil change. Nope, nothing wrong with Moog.

I'd suggest 12" wheels and 305/33"+? tires might have caused this issue.
12-24-2019 02:33 PM
nosympathy so this is what my upper balljoints are like. Seems like a lot of play for 20K miles. Definitely not buying Moog ever again &#x1f642;. Put in a set of EMF to replace them and they are nice. Feels like a whole new truck now.

<Img>https://imgur.com/gallery/RF4qVUX
12-21-2019 11:35 AM
nosympathy
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I feel your pain! I chased a steering issue with this 98 and replaced/upgraded everything and it turned out to be adjustable bjís that werenít adjusted correctly. Hopefully this is your fix
It's a real pain finding this stuff sometimes. Counting all the things I had wrong I don't know how I never had DW.

speaking of bj's, I said F it on those as well lol. New set of EMF will be delivered on Monday and I am replacing those regardless of what shape the Moog are in.
12-21-2019 08:43 AM
98whitelightnin I feel your pain! I chased a steering issue with this 98 and replaced/upgraded everything and it turned out to be adjustable bjís that werenít adjusted correctly. Hopefully this is your fix
12-21-2019 02:29 AM
nosympathy Just so you all can enjoy my suffering, in fixing all of this stuff I decided to also finally replace the control arms I've been meaning to replace for a while. I guess I should have mentioned I had Poly control arms from the previous owner as I know they are not great on these trucks.

I replaced those with Carli's tonight and boy was I in for a surprise. You'll never guess which side this was on. The other side looked perfect. This is the lower bushing at the axle.

I am going to hurt tomorrow lol...
12-14-2019 04:03 PM
nosympathy Just figured I'd update since I've driven the truck a few times.

After getting the wheels balanced and new gear box in, the truck drives MUCH better. This gear box is weird. The 4 bolt felt "loose" and this one feels insanely tight, but not in a bad way. Like the amount of effort to make the first 10* of a turn is much higher than after you get past that point. I am assuming this is on purpose and I'll just get used to it. It has zero trouble turning the tires while sitting parked. The previous gear box couldn't do that and everyone blamed my PS pump (which is a bolt back unit) but I always felt that was wrong .

There does seem to be some goofiness in the way the truck drives still, I almost lost control on a highway they are repaving where the road was rutted to absolute heck and back. Was extremely uncomfortable drive. Not a highway I've driven in a long while, but I had to fight the truck a lot. I noticed with the front in the air and turning the wheel with the truck off to bleed the new box, that the resistance was different turning to each side and inconsistent as well, like there were dead spots. I didn't pull it off to test, but I assume the steering damper is bad. I remember when I installed the Mopar T style linkage that it felt odd compressing it to put it on the bolt.

So I went crazy and ordered the BDS dual fox unit that doesn't need drilled. I've driven a sports car that had 11" wheels all around and it tram lined bad, I was always amazed the truck didn't. I guess I just didn't notice how bad it was since the gear box was a steaming pile of garbage LOL.
12-10-2019 04:19 PM
nosympathy
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Originally Posted by 24hrsparkey View Post
Trans ? FP is def a viable choice ,, BUT i'd give John Mulldoon and a Gorend converter my first nod.

good luck ,24hrsparkey
I've heard excellent things about them as well, main reason I was looking at FP is they are about a 2 hour drive from me. So I don't have to deal with shipping and any issues *should* be easier to remedy if they occur.
12-10-2019 03:10 PM
24hrsparkey
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It's the equipment costs. I'd much rather mount my own tires, even if it wastes a bunch of my time learning, and get them right than have these places half it. It ended up taking a call to the district manager to get these things balanced. The shop tried to step back and refuse to do the work. I know not everyone is like that in this business, but I seem to find them all. I almost always prefer to buy the tools and learn than pay someone. With the exception of a big well established business. I'll be dropping $7K+ at firepunk soon for a built trans.
Trans ? FP is def a viable choice ,, BUT i'd give John Mulldoon and a Gorend converter my first nod.

good luck ,24hrsparkey
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