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10-23-2019 10:50 PM
gsbrockman
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Originally Posted by Jimmy N. View Post
I definitely wouldn't. But maybe it's somehow okay that the crap is still in there when you can't see it?
10-23-2019 08:59 PM
redeye0315 just pull the cover.
10-23-2019 08:06 PM
Jimmy N. Sorry, that was not meant as an insult. Just relayed something I heard that I thought was funny.

But if I wanted to, I could feel insulted when you post that changing the fluid is changing the fluid, regardless of method, and that the result is supposedly the same.
10-23-2019 07:47 PM
GMconvert
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Originally Posted by Jimmy N. View Post
There's more to it than that. Changing the fluid is part of getting rid of the contaminants, which is the important thing.

I'm pretty sure that the same fluid could be reused (if there's no water contamination) once well filtered.



While sucking most of the fluid out is better than not doing anything, it still leaves the worst stuff at the bottom. At least I have never seen or heard of any device that doesn't.



Pulling the cover not only allows for an inspection, but to clean out all the crap that has settled at the bottom.

Then refilling with new fluid (because it's so much quicker and easier than filtering the old oil) completes the job as it's intended to be done.



Of course, lacking a proper drain pan, sucking the fluid out and then letting what remains drip into a coffee mug when removing the cover works, too. But I don't mind spending $3 on a drain pan. They're reusable, just like the cover gasket.



As an aside, I recently heard about a guy who put on rubber gloves to pull the dipstick on his car and check the oil. It naturally made me crack up, but now I realize that he may very well use suction to drain the oil pan, too. If he gets that deep into vehicle maintenance, that is.
Wow...that was helpful... especially the attempt to insult at the end!

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10-23-2019 07:17 PM
Ltngdrvr As simple is it is to just take the cover off/loose, there just isn't any good reason to use a pump.
10-23-2019 07:00 PM
Jimmy N.
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Originally Posted by Gr8bawana View Post
I'm sure none of you guys would use a suction device to do your normal oil changes because any gunk at the bottom will still be there when you're done.
I definitely wouldn't. But maybe it's somehow okay that the crap is still in there when you can't see it?

I completely understand having to do it on some boats, though. If there's no access, there's no access.
10-23-2019 06:50 PM
Gr8bawana
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Originally Posted by gsbrockman View Post
Using a suction device for fluid removal is as about half-assssssssed as it gets when one is working on a 2003 and newer RAM 2500 or 3500 with those wonderful, reusable gaskets....
100% agree.
I'm sure none of you guys would use a suction device to do your normal oil changes because any gunk at the bottom will still be there when you're done.
10-23-2019 12:15 PM
gsbrockman Using a suction device for fluid removal is as about half-assssssssed as it gets when one is working on a 2003 and newer RAM 2500 or 3500 with those wonderful, reusable gaskets....
10-23-2019 12:10 PM
Jimmy N.
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Originally Posted by GMconvert View Post
Changing fluid is changing fluid, now if people want to pull the cover and inspect, go ahead.
There's more to it than that. Changing the fluid is part of getting rid of the contaminants, which is the important thing.
I'm pretty sure that the same fluid could be reused (if there's no water contamination) once well filtered.

While sucking most of the fluid out is better than not doing anything, it still leaves the worst stuff at the bottom. At least I have never seen or heard of any device that doesn't.

Pulling the cover not only allows for an inspection, but to clean out all the crap that has settled at the bottom.
Then refilling with new fluid (because it's so much quicker and easier than filtering the old oil) completes the job as it's intended to be done.

Of course, lacking a proper drain pan, sucking the fluid out and then letting what remains drip into a coffee mug when removing the cover works, too. But I don't mind spending $3 on a drain pan. They're reusable, just like the cover gasket.

As an aside, I recently heard about a guy who put on rubber gloves to pull the dipstick on his car and check the oil. It naturally made me crack up, but now I realize that he may very well use suction to drain the oil pan, too. If he gets that deep into vehicle maintenance, that is.
10-23-2019 07:28 AM
GMconvert
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Originally Posted by Jimmy N. View Post
Could you please explain how it doesn't?
Changing fluid is changing fluid, now if people want to pull the cover and inspect, go ahead.

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10-22-2019 10:11 PM
fitz011 Now try that 6.5 gal oil extractor from Harbor Freight (yeah, I know).
Retails for $159 but you can get at least 10-20% off of that. Very
useful
10-22-2019 03:19 PM
Grit dog
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr View Post
First off, I don't have a pump, don't plan to buy one just to change diff oil when taking a few bolts loose gets the job done.

Plus, you get more of the old oil out by taking the cover off/loose.

But, it's your truck, you maintain it as you wish, by whatever procedure works for you.
True^.
On a similar note, I broke down and bought one of those 6 quart vacuum pumps, primarily for changing the boat oil as the newer boat was a pain in the ___ by other means. I've found that to be the best $60 spent in a while on a tool.
Used to use a drill motor pump, siphoning, turkey basters, cutting lines loose and hope to catch all the fluid, etc for years.
That pump is the shizz for vehicles and toys maintenance.
Still drain what I can, but being able to extract whatever kind of vehicle juice you need to in short order and zero mess is priceless!
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