Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum - Reply to Topic
4th Gen Tire and wheel Discussion of tire and wheel options

Thread: Crap tires Reply to Thread
Title:
Message:
Trackback:
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










  Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

  Topic Review (Newest First)
11-02-2019 08:26 AM
firemedic1560 I got 10,000 miles on my factory set of Nexens and have one right now with the belt separating. Both inner dualls are wearing unevenly. I have one trip with a 20k fifth wheel and another trip next weekend. She's going in Monday for a new set of Michelins. Irritating to have to replace 6 tires at 10,000 miles but I can't risk a failure with 44' of fifth wheel behind me.
09-25-2019 02:18 PM
MikeRP I have 30,000 miles on my 2018 Ram Bighorn 3500 CC SB HO. 5000 miles of that has been towing a 15000 lb fifth wheel. The tires are holding up fine. I rotate them every 10000 miles. They probably have another 20,000 miles on them. Firestone Transforce AT’s. I’ve been pretty satisfied with their towing performance. Been running around 99 psi when they are hot from towing which is good. The truck is about 300 lbs over GVWR.
09-25-2019 12:38 PM
Aburdett
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy N. View Post
That's part of the beauty, so to speak, of OE wheels; so many change them out to something "different" that the OE wheels almost become different.



As an added bonus, they have been extensively tested, have all the correct dimensions, and are generally cheap to buy.



Appearance? Well, that's highly subjective. I certainly don't like the looks of all OE wheels, but on the other hand, quite a few of the aftermarket offerings are hideous, I think.


I prefer most oem rims on the higher trimmed vehicles. Aftermarket rims are everywhere and like you said are less different than having oem.
09-25-2019 12:34 PM
WAGmore
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy N. View Post

Appearance? Well, that's highly subjective. I certainly don't like the looks of all OE wheels, but on the other hand, quite a few of the aftermarket offerings are hideous, I think.

I agree that the majority of aftermarket options are hideous. At least there are options to “make your truck yours” I guess... I know there are plenty of people out there that wouldn’t agree with the set up on my rig, but it serves me well and that’s it’s purpose, not impressing people that only judge a book by its cover... life is too short to worry about that.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
09-25-2019 12:24 PM
Jimmy N.
Quote:
Originally Posted by WAGmore View Post
A lot of people are motivated by appearance only. The guy at the tire shop said “appearance is everything...”. And then they don’t keep in mind any of the load ratings while selling you something.
That's part of the beauty, so to speak, of OE wheels; so many change them out to something "different" that the OE wheels almost become different.

As an added bonus, they have been extensively tested, have all the correct dimensions, and are generally cheap to buy.

Appearance? Well, that's highly subjective. I certainly don't like the looks of all OE wheels, but on the other hand, quite a few of the aftermarket offerings are hideous, I think.
09-25-2019 11:29 AM
WAGmore
Crap tires

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy N. View Post
Upgrade? Changing to something aftermarket isn't synonymous with upgrading.

In the case of Transforce tires, yes, all but the cheapest Chinese tires probably are an upgrade, but the wheels?!?


Agreed. Which is why I bought so many sets of them over the last 3 years. Although there are definitely OEM wheels that just don’t look good on certain trim levels. Didn’t think I’d find an aftermarket set that I liked, was affordable, and was rated at least as high as OEM. I ended up looking for a wider set of 18s so I could run 305/65 Load F 128Q “12 ply” 80 PSI Ridge Grapplers, and got lucky by finding an awesome deal on a Black Rhino set that is up to the task.
(I still run OEM 20s for my winter set)

A lot of people are motivated by appearance only. The guy at the tire shop said “appearance is everything...”. And then they don’t keep in mind any of the load ratings while selling you something.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
09-25-2019 09:03 AM
KindCummins67 [QUOTE=Ltngdrvr;29094481]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogpatch View Post
OEM tires are made for the new vehicle manufacturer’s specifically for looks and not longevity. They are not the same tires you’ll buy, same brand, from the tire store. Components are different.
I've been tire tech/lube tech/mechanic for 15 years and can confirm that yes this IS in fact true. Most manufacturers will put low tread life tires on new vehicles, FROM factory. Yes it is a different tire than what you'd typically purchase for your car or truck, as you'd likely not put the same tire, with the same tread life on you car, if they wore down that fast. I know I wouldn't. They key is looking at the specifics of the ratings....every tire has them, I've always been told, even look at Costco brand tires. You'll go get a quote and give your tire size and what not and even the exact tire you want, and they will sell you a lower speed rated tire, made at a different factory, with different tread life than what you ask for. How the hell do people think they sell their tires so cheap??

Anyway,

I'm not sure if one of the above posters had better tires on his truck or not, but as a person who's changed hundreds and hundreds of tires over his career, yes, manufacturers will put a new, low quality tire on a new car that has low to little tread life or wear rating, with the intended purpose of selling you more later.
09-24-2019 09:45 PM
Dogpatch
Quote:
Originally Posted by Packard8 View Post
You must have got a bad batch...shot @ 10K miles? I cut the sidewall on one of the OEM AT's @ 40K, could have gone another 10K safely but I opted for a new set of Michelins rather than replacing just one of the OEM's. Should have done it sooner, as the Michelins are a much superior tire re traction, ride, etc.
It blew me away how fast they went. It’s like it was happening while I was asleep!

I run new Michelin take offs now. 2 sets already. Buy them cheap and Last 3 years. I run different tires in winter.

Like riding on a cloud!
09-24-2019 09:32 PM
McRod Try Transforce AT2s. I have them on mine and they are the best tires yet. Supposed to be a much better compound than the ATs. My Ram started with Nexan Rodians, which I had to replace at 35k miles with Transforce HTs. The HTs lasted 60k miles, but they didn't do well off highway. So I bought AT2s, have about 15k on them now and they still look new. Traction off road is much better.
09-24-2019 09:29 PM
Jimmy N.
Quote:
Originally Posted by WAGmore View Post
Many people are pulling these off their trucks immediately to upgrade wheels and tires, so I have bought three sets of new take off wheels and tires for $5-700...
Upgrade? Changing to something aftermarket isn't synonymous with upgrading.
In the case of Transforce tires, yes, all but the cheapest Chinese tires probably are an upgrade, but the wheels?!?
09-24-2019 08:11 PM
Packard8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogpatch View Post
Ive read it and been told it. And only got 10,500 miles out of my OEM 285/60R20 Firestone Piece of Crap Transforce AT’s as living, down to the wear bars, proof.
I ever said they were made to be dangerous, I said they weren’t made of the same compounds as a tire store tire where they have to provide a wear guarantee.
You must have got a bad batch...shot @ 10K miles? I cut the sidewall on one of the OEM AT's @ 40K, could have gone another 10K safely but I opted for a new set of Michelins rather than replacing just one of the OEM's. Should have done it sooner, as the Michelins are a much superior tire re traction, ride, etc.
09-22-2019 12:57 PM
WAGmore
Crap tires

I’d consider yourself lucky that you could get between 20-30K on these tires if you actually haul and tow anywhere close to what these trucks are designed for. Only way I got 33K was by running a different set during the winter, and then stretching the Firestones farther than any other tires I’ve owned in terms of wear. (Always ran full recommended PSI too)

Many people are pulling these off their trucks immediately to upgrade wheels and tires, so I have bought three sets of new take off wheels and tires for $5-700... when you consider that cost at 20-30K miles it’s very reasonable since you can sell the (Black, not chrome) wheels for $4-600 once you are done with the tires.

I actually think they ride decent, and are plenty of traction for summer driving, but wouldn’t risk any amount of winter driving on them, unless you’re a flat lander.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
This thread has more than 12 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome