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09-17-2019 09:26 PM
24hrsparkey
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Originally Posted by tryNto View Post
OK, But a real washboard road is going to have an effect no matter what you spend, you can just go faster with more $$.
Depending on the spacing of the washboard, sometimes faster is smoother.
Guys it's a VERY Heavy suspension . The unstrung weight must be hundreds of pounds . Sooo much different than say a race vehicle .
So a washboard long section Will determine your speed unfortunately .
09-17-2019 08:52 PM
tryNto OK, But a real washboard road is going to have an effect no matter what you spend, you can just go faster with more $$.
Depending on the spacing of the washboard, sometimes faster is smoother.
09-17-2019 08:12 PM
smelonas
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Any washboard road determines a speed you can drive at, it's just not the speed you want to go.
That's kind of an incorrect blanket statement to make. It really depends on setup. With stock type suspension, you will only be able to go so fast, yes. With bypass shocks, you could probably do just about any reasonable speed from 0 to 70 or 80. It really gets down to how much money you spend honestly.

You dont redefine physics, you just twist it with money.

Same with building engines. You cant make 1500hp on a stock Cummins engine, you could with a billet and blueprinted one(aka money).

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09-17-2019 07:59 PM
oaborbag I have a stretch of highway near me and I've tried going anywhere from 55 - 80mph, bounces at any speed, thought its a little less harsh at slower speeds. Sometimes I think its also the wheelbase not helping.
09-17-2019 07:56 PM
tryNto Any washboard road determines a speed you can drive at, it's just not the speed you want to go.
09-17-2019 07:55 PM
smelonas
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Thanks, and that was what I figured. Went from Bilsteins, to Overlands, zero improvement on washboards. Guess I'll look into the resi style shocks. The truck isn't fun to drive on the roads around where I live, the harsh bumps are way too harsh, and the I feel like the front end is about to get air on washboards
I just need some washboard roads to test my fronts out on. The rear is horrible now!!

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09-17-2019 06:54 PM
oaborbag
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IIRC, reservoir shocks are almost a necessity for heavy washboard roads because cavitation will get the best of the oil in no time if you dont have a res. Fox 2.0s with resis are probably your best bet. Not too expensive.

Problem with washboard is that you really do need the bigger body to help displace more fluid over the valving. The little double chamber shocks with 1.5 or small valve pistons arent crap at anything because they simply dont displace enough fluid and overheat/cavitate quickly. IFP is a bare minimum on a truck shock. Everything else is just good money after bad.

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Thanks, and that was what I figured. Went from Bilsteins, to Overlands, zero improvement on washboards. Guess I'll look into the resi style shocks. The truck isn't fun to drive on the roads around where I live, the harsh bumps are way too harsh, and the I feel like the front end is about to get air on washboards
09-12-2019 02:13 PM
smelonas IIRC, reservoir shocks are almost a necessity for heavy washboard roads because cavitation will get the best of the oil in no time if you dont have a res. Fox 2.0s with resis are probably your best bet. Not too expensive.

Problem with washboard is that you really do need the bigger body to help displace more fluid over the valving. The little double chamber shocks with 1.5 or small valve pistons arent crap at anything because they simply dont displace enough fluid and overheat/cavitate quickly. IFP is a bare minimum on a truck shock. Everything else is just good money after bad.

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09-12-2019 01:32 PM
oaborbag To piggyback on this thread, for washboard roads or hard dips, what one will give the best ride for the price? The Overlands I have do about as well as Bilsteins do in these two situtations, horribly. After a second of washboard road, the trucks front end just starts bouncing.
09-10-2019 11:26 PM
evildiesel
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I’ve tried fox 2.0’s and bilstein 5100.

If it’s a smooth ride you want, stay away from the Bilsteins. Any bump in the road and my truck reminds me that I still have all my organs.

The fox 2.0’s ride amazing. I will be buying those again next year. Only downside to the fox’s is they blow seals pretty easily, but after riding with these bilstein shocks.. I’ll take a fox with blown seals over them.
if they blow seals easily, how long do you think they will last on a washboard road? my experience with the fox steering stabilizer was not so good, they did not last, something failed & it would no longer compress fully while turning right. that happened 2x... went with carli & now on year 3 with it.
Just throwing my opinion in here.
09-10-2019 11:24 PM
Bad V2
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I plan to do limit straps and stops at some point. Maybe. It's in my head but I think all that will come after I stretch and build this thing..

Talking to thuren and they recommended doing leafs which then tended me to think I will then need air bags. Rolling my eyes over here. I just want a smooth ride! Lol

I do plan on getting the rear shocks with standard flow bypass tubes just because I think I will appreciate the adjustability in the mid stroke..

For that matter, I still gotta truss the axles and weld em. So there's that as well. Now I see why carli gets 12k smackers for their top of line long arm kit. Stuff just adds up one item at a time. (I wont be doing a long arm kit, im just not that extreme..)

And thanks for the enthusiasm on the install. I'll have my socket trays, impacts and ratchets, Jack's and stands at the ready. I just realized I gotta pull my steering box brace(and sway bar...) to pull the pitman arm.
V2!!! IM CALLING FOR BACKUP!!!!!! LMAO
If your gonna do full leafs and bypasses, Alien arms are in your future. I said the same thing. Lol! Message me if you need the help.
09-10-2019 09:26 PM
smelonas
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Originally Posted by El Pozzinator View Post
Filthy motorsports has a YouTube channel. Youll learn more about suspensions than you ever realized you didnt know. Theyve only got about 6-7 hours of total content but Ive probably nerded out and watched all of it at least 3-4 times.


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I race offroad motorcycles, so I have a fairly decent grasp of how suspension should feel and react. However, I dont think most people have the slightest clue how any of it works.
Just spend a lot of money is usually the answer. Which is fine as long as its setup right and works correctly.

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