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09-03-2019 11:00 AM
SeventyGTX Nice truck, enjoy it!
09-03-2019 10:49 AM
sifactor Thanks everyone for all the feedback. Just to close the loop on this, I ended up trading in my 2500 for a 3500 dually. I went with another 3500 with a 68RFE because it was only a 5 hour drive instead of 10, it's black, has auto level, and I decided I didn't want the extra maintenance of the Aisin.
08-23-2019 04:48 PM
BFD For the OP who was wondering about 3.73 gears. I have stock 18"... 70mph=1750rpm, 75=1875 and 80=2000rpm. I love it for towing and its also fine unloaded. Craig
08-23-2019 02:51 PM
SeventyGTX Speaking of feeling safe, after coming from a 31ft Tioga Class C pulling a Jeep Liberty toad, my current setup is an absolute dream by comparison, especially when it comes to white knuckles. But I do have a relatively light fiver.
08-23-2019 02:24 PM
RammerJam
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Originally Posted by sifactor View Post
The sticker is the 10,000 GVWR which says my payload is like 1800 lbs :-\ That's what I was referring to since the pin weight of the trailers I'm looking at start around 2400 lbs. I know my truck can handle considerably more than that, though.

With the 3.42 gears, the max tow rating for my truck (according to Ram's website) is around 13,000 lbs. My only concern with that number is: will towing up to 14,000 lb put too much stress on the 68RFE transmission with the 3.42s?

Also, to address the "stiffy for a new truck", that's definitely not the case. I'm actually pretty hesitant to get it, I'm just looking at the long term investment.
The GVWR is mostly a made-up number in order to qualify for the DOT's Class 2B Truck classification

Any more weight than that puts it into a class 3 class truck. Which, in many (read; most) States changes everything from tags to inaurance or inspections. Your dually would be a Class 3. Have you looked into what will change if you bring that one home?

As to max tow rating, I'm seeing over 17,000lbs towing for my truck but only 15,430 for your MegaCab. https://www.ramtrucks.com/content/da...Ram%202500.pdf

Again, IMHO mostly made-up numbers that they backward figure. The Mega cab weighs only about 350lbs more than the regular Crew Cab. Unless there's something about the MegaCab that makes it weaker??

I don't get it....

But, here's the biggie.......

If you're more comfortable, if you're gonna feel safer in a Dually, then that is absolutely what you should get.

I'm just trying to give you both sides of the equation.
08-23-2019 12:20 PM
RammerJam My objection to a dually is strictly personal. I personally think they suck if you don't need it.

If you need it, you need it. End of story.

If you don't, then it's more of a 'statement' truck. And that's okay, too. You have the right to buy whatever the heck you wanna buy.

But to tell an FNG that there's no real difference is just plain wrong.

You wanna tell me there's no difference? Go for it. I will assign your opinion the worth it deserves. I've heard ducks fart underwater before.

But to tell a person who has never owned one and has no real experience driving one that there's no difference......?

That's just wrong.

YOU can't tell the difference? Good on you. You're wonderful. Super. But most of the rest of the world CAN tell the difference. A big difference.

It would be better to tell the OP what to look for when you first buy and start to operate one rather than puff out your chest and tell him that you can't tell the difference.

Just my opinion. And not worth a dime
08-23-2019 11:37 AM
gsbrockman
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Originally Posted by AndrewMW View Post
Right on cue, the same dudes, half-a$$ reading the thread (if at all)...

I already posted my opinion on the drawbacks of a dually towing your 5er, but let me bottom line it for the slow kids:

Unless you are some kind of campground hermit, once you park the 5er - you will have to go outside the campground. At that point, it's like daily-driving the dually in an unknown location. Most places, especially tourist areas, are not fit for a dually.
I did some serious traveling this summer, and due to the size of my setup, I have to stay at campgrounds accommodating big rigs. I have not seen a single dually pulling a 5er, not one! Most people seem to choose the motor home + small vehicle alternative to a dually with a heavy 5er, and rightfully so.



Not the same thing. My mirrors are usually above the cars next to me in a parking spot (or I can fold them), so no issue there, but your dually fenders are right at vehicle level. Not an issue in Texas (or any rural setting), but try parking that dually at the parking lots of a beach town...
We’re not slow kids........you just have extremely, extremely poor written communication skills, coupled with extremely poor cognitive thinking abilities, often times exhibited by passing off opine as fact, in a cookie cutter type format.

Since we are now into name calling.....I’ll just say you’re a Puss that apparently is either too skeeeeeerred and / or too inept to drive a DRW on a daily basis.

Maybe you can start another thread with value.....like your air filter thread?
08-23-2019 11:32 AM
SeventyGTX
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr View Post
Well, the only difference between those two trucks are the badges, why would they have different ratings???

And, you don't think they could ever have misinformation or typos in their info?
Sure, I agree in the different numbers being odd and they could have typos. Like I said, who or what do you go by for capacity if not the manufacturer?
08-23-2019 11:26 AM
Ltngdrvr
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Originally Posted by SeventyGTX View Post
Then who do you trust if not the manufacturer? Curious as just makes no sense they would post wrong numbers.
Well, the only difference between those two trucks are the badges, why would they have different ratings???

And, you don't think they could ever have misinformation or typos in their info?
08-23-2019 11:12 AM
EricPeterson
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Originally Posted by troverman View Post
The one advantage the SRW trucks have is more ground clearance and better off-road capability.
That can be rectified.... except for the obvious limited trail width thing, clearly.
08-23-2019 11:03 AM
Jimmy N.
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Originally Posted by AndrewMW View Post
Right on cue, the same dudes, half-a$$ reading the thread (if at all)...

I already posted my opinion on the drawbacks of a dually towing your 5er, but let me bottom line it for the slow kids:

Unless you are some kind of campground hermit, once you park the 5er - you will have to go outside the campground. At that point, it's like daily-driving the dually in an unknown location. Most places, especially tourist areas, are not fit for a dually.
I did some serious traveling this summer, and due to the size of my setup, I have to stay at campgrounds accommodating big rigs. I have not seen a single dually pulling a 5er, not one! Most people seem to choose the motor home + small vehicle alternative to a dually with a heavy 5er, and rightfully so.
Slow kid here, wanting to point out that I don't frequent campgrounds.

What I have done, however, is drive various duallies in L.A.'s finest traffic, including while living in "a tourist area". And aside from just driving them, a fair amount was with a camper and flat towing my Jeep, including in San Francisco.
It can be done, trust me, it really can. People drive much bigger things than DRW pickups and live to tell about it.

And please enlighten me; "...due to the size of my setup, I have to stay at campgrounds accommodating big rigs."
It sounds like whether you pull with a SRW or DRW, it's the trailer that's the problem, likely being the same width as a DRW anyway.

Well, it's obvious that there's more to it than the size of the trailer. May I suggest a driving course? Surely Good Sam, or some similar outfit, has something that could help you learn maneuver what's really a relatively small vehicle in the scheme of things.
08-23-2019 10:50 AM
SeventyGTX
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Originally Posted by troverman View Post
The dually trucks truly are the kings of the road, as far as pickup trucks go.

The one advantage the SRW trucks have is more ground clearance and better off-road capability.

There a lot more advantages to a short bed SRW, like being able to park it just about anywhere, going through drive-throughs, shorter turning radius, sticking it in the garage with another car, etc.

I'm not dissing dually's whatsoever. I just think they are overkill for towing anything under 15-16K. But hey, I see guys buying them or other diesels for that matter, and never towing squat except maybe a couple of jet-skis. In my particular case, the only time I could possibly want one is in super high crosswinds. But that doesn't override the overwhelming ease of daily use with a short CC SRW in my view. Whatever floats yer boat.
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