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Yesterday 06:34 PM
Duelly Dad
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Originally Posted by GAmes View Post
Exactly what the advertisement writers of the "Lubricity Additive Study Results" wants people to do. I continue to be additive free and spend my money on things that matter.

To each there own....
Yesterday 06:01 PM
Gator1 It's part of the new going "green" agenda, we don't want plastic containers full of used motor oil in our landfills! lol
Yesterday 05:53 PM
GAmes Doesn't make it any smarter, and had nothing to do with lubricity. Of course, back then there were little to no additives in engine oil, not even detergents. Engines that went past 100,000 miles were a rarity. A 3.9 liter V8 gasoline engine (239c.i.) was a marvel at 130 HP. Do you want to go back there?
Yesterday 05:39 PM
Gator1
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Originally Posted by GAmes View Post
It was stupid then, the same as it is stupid now.
If you talk to an old "motor T" guy in the military you'll find that the factory manuals told them to drain the old engine oil and dump it in the fuel tanks. Not a "recommendation" an "order".
Yesterday 05:34 PM
GAmes It was stupid then, the same as it is stupid now.
Yesterday 05:31 PM
Gator1 Actually back then they might not have used 2so, but they did pour their used crank case oil in after an oil change, and some still do. That probably wouldn't fly with todays CR injectors though.
Yesterday 05:25 PM
GAmes
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The proof for me was when my fairly new IP started leaking around the O-rings, and when I added a gallon of 2SO in 1/2 tank it stopped, and never returned. Also my lift pump runs much quieter, injectors as well.
In truck stops a long long time ago, back in the world of diesel rotary fuel pumps, the US switched to a new fuel called low sulfur diesel (LSD). The high sulfur content of the fuel they had been using had affected the seals of those rotary pumps and LSD caused them to leak. The fix back then was to simply replace the seals. I seriously doubt that anyone even considered pouring 2SO into the fuel tanks. Many old timers feared the same thing would happen when ULSD was mandated. If it did, it wasn't prevalent. Of course, after the year 2000 there weren't a lot of rotary pumps in use. Have you ran a few tanks of fuel without 2SO to check if that is indeed the fix? I think the odds are good that it won't leak with straight diesel.

I've heard the "quieter" story before. Did you measure the volume with a meter? I did. There wasn't one iota difference in decibels with and without 2SO. I robbed my boat engine of a qt of oil. The upside is you THINK your engine is quieter, I KNOW that mine is not.
Yesterday 10:21 AM
Gator1 The proof for me was when my fairly new IP started leaking around the O-rings, and when I added a gallon of 2SO in 1/2 tank it stopped, and never returned. Also my lift pump runs much quieter, injectors as well.
Yesterday 10:15 AM
GAmes
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Originally Posted by cerberusiam View Post
Note the differences between a tractor engine that uses engine oil for its main lube as opposed to the far more common fuel lubed IP's, what "matters" is directly related to the equipment.

The CR's thrive on additional lube and diesel treatment, the VE pumps that are pushed to the limits NEED the additional additives all the time or they tend to die in spectacular fashion, even the oil lubed IP engines need a periodic dosing of additives to be happy and run better. Mainstay has been PS and standard 2SO in everything for many years and miles. A periodic change to a mix of PS and MMO helps keep the tank, lines, and fuel system that much cleaner. I use about 10 oz's of the PS\lube mix per 1/2 tank and it has shown enough benefits to be worth the extra $$ so it really DOES "matter".
You have an amazingly short memory. I have pointed out to you and on quite a few occasions that the P7100 pump has more fuel lubed parts than any of the 24 valve engine pumps. Calling it a tractor engine doesn't change the fact that early injection pumps don't need any additive, so why do late model ones? They were manufactured after ULSD was mandated. I've also pointed out to you on several occasions that metals inside aircraft fuel control units exist that don't need even as much lubricity as LSD and ULSD provide. And for years now you have been promising a scientific study that confirms that ULSD lacks lubricity. You can not come up with one even though you claim there are several. I ask you again, what did you blame VE and VP failures on before ULSD? Where is the proof that "10 oz's of the PS\lube mix per 1/2 tank and it has shown enough benefits to be worth the extra $$"? I know you didn't do a scientific test . The need for PS and 2SO are only a mainstay in your mind.
Yesterday 09:39 AM
cerberusiam
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Originally Posted by GAmes View Post
I continue to be additive free and spend my money on things that matter.
Note the differences between a tractor engine that uses engine oil for its main lube as opposed to the far more common fuel lubed IP's, what "matters" is directly related to the equipment.

The CR's thrive on additional lube and diesel treatment, the VE pumps that are pushed to the limits NEED the additional additives all the time or they tend to die in spectacular fashion, even the oil lubed IP engines need a periodic dosing of additives to be happy and run better. Mainstay has been PS and standard 2SO in everything for many years and miles. A periodic change to a mix of PS and MMO helps keep the tank, lines, and fuel system that much cleaner. I use about 10 oz's of the PS\lube mix per 1/2 tank and it has shown enough benefits to be worth the extra $$ so it really DOES "matter".
Yesterday 08:15 AM
steve05ram360
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Originally Posted by GAmes View Post
Exactly what the advertisement writers of the "Lubricity Additive Study Results" wants people to do. I continue to be additive free and spend my money on things that matter.
Thats awesome. Would be nice if us daily driver HPCR motor owners had it that good (been there, done that, needs ATF/2SO). That extra $4 tank adds up.
Yesterday 07:36 AM
rosco2002 Lots of good info. I use 2smo my self
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