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05-18-2019 01:10 PM
Sazabizc
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Originally Posted by boshog View Post
This statement needs qualifiers. It is true slotted/drilled rotors could develop cracks when used in racing vehicles due to the heat and temperature extremes. On-street use and towing will never see that level of abuse, so enjoy the benefits that slotted/drill rotors bring for street use.

https://www.powerstop.com/drilled-vs...hat-is-better/






On my dads 05 truck , never tows or hauls anything. Just drives him to work and back. Iím on my second pair of ebc slotted and dipped rotors and have never had any cracks . I donít recall the brand of Rotor he was running I just put them on for him.

Iíve had ebc green stuff on my 03 and they did brake good but the life span sucked. I think I only got 40k out of them . Ebc rep was surprised I got that much out of them. Iíve had two sets of the yellow stuff pads . They brake nice and I was able to get about 63k out of them . My last set the rears prematurely wore out . I think they only lasted 10k maybe less. I was shocked. I thought my rotors must have been dragging but they werenít . It also worn the rotors down to. I called ebc tech support they were at a lost two. They asked what I did to diagnose it and I told them then he asked for my receipt. They sent me new rear pads and rotors .

Iím now using the dipped and slotted rotors and extra duty pads. They seem to have great stopping power and they are wearing nice . Only complaint is they make a lot of dust .


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05-17-2019 05:21 PM
brendog84cj8 Anyone else find any of their stock pads backing plates in this condition when they went to replace them? To say it surprised me would be an understatement.
05-17-2019 12:40 PM
Jimbo
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Originally Posted by Mariner2010 View Post
I just put EBC drilled/slotors rotors and Orange pads at all 4 corners--incredible improvement over the factory setup!
I kept the stock rotors, as they still measure almost brand new, and the improvement is nuts. Many miles down the road, when I have to actually do the rotors, I'll go with the complete setup and likely be even more impressed.
05-16-2019 08:49 PM
Mariner2010 I just put EBC drilled/slotors rotors and Orange pads at all 4 corners--incredible improvement over the factory setup!
05-16-2019 06:15 AM
boshog
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Originally Posted by dieselbuilder View Post
A drilled and slotted rotor has more of a chance to crack under heavy load
This statement needs qualifiers. It is true slotted/drilled rotors could develop cracks when used in racing vehicles due to the heat and temperature extremes. On-street use and towing will never see that level of abuse, so enjoy the benefits that slotted/drill rotors bring for street use.

https://www.powerstop.com/drilled-vs...hat-is-better/
05-15-2019 07:39 PM
brendog84cj8 Here in the near future I will be able to give a report on the Z36 Power Stop pads with stock rotors. I only have 66K on my 14 crew cab long bed and have developed a terrible low speed light pedal squeal that will have everyone at each intersection staring at you. I pulled the front apart yesterday to see if cleaning everything up and lightly greasing all contact points would help and it has not. One thing I did discover was I had one pad on each side that had the backing plate completely rusted, pitted and generally trashed. I have replaced a ton of brakes over the years on many vehicles and have never seen the backing plate of a brake pad in such bad shape. I also noted I was getting more wear on the outer pad than the inner, even though the caliper guide pins were in ok shape. I did pull those pins, cleaned them up and re-greased.

I went ahead and ordered the Power Stop Z36 pads and am going to clean up my stock rotors when they are installed. Hopefully this helps the horrible low speed light pedal squeal and I am interested to see how the pads perform with the stock rotors.
05-15-2019 06:01 PM
dieselbuilder A drilled and slotted rotor has more of a chance to crack under heavy load . I have run dimpled and slotted and green pads for many years over 15 always with best results . Towing trailers and fifth wheel in the Rockies they never failed , the first set lasted over six years , and only two with wagner brand . And now with a newer truck when brakes come around i will spend the extra and do it again
05-15-2019 04:39 PM
Danderson
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Originally Posted by silver60 View Post
I love mine , night and day difference over stock . I have 70k on mine and they still look great . I'm using the powerstop rotors and zero issues. They do make dust but comes off alot easier than the dust from the stock setup .
Ditto here. My truck has never stopped this good. I've got the drilled and slotted rotors and supplied pads.
Rears are next. FYI,my stock brakes were like new @ 90K. 99% was with my 1800# camper on my back. The G-56 sure helps with pad longevity.
I have the Z-36 kit.
I had lousy luck with drilled and slotted rotors and carbon Kevlar pads on my '99. Bedded them in same way but they were terrible.
05-15-2019 04:13 PM
silver60 I love mine , night and day difference over stock . I have 70k on mine and they still look great . I'm using the powerstop rotors and zero issues. They do make dust but comes off alot easier than the dust from the stock setup .
05-15-2019 03:29 PM
Jimbo Circling back, just put on the orange stuff pads. WOW. I should have done this a long time ago.
03-07-2019 12:08 PM
battlerattle
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Originally Posted by K9Kodi View Post
I assume running drilled and slotted rotors on a truck that seems lots of mud on farm trails and fields would be bad idea
Unless you are parking in some seriously sloppy mud it isn't an issue. In the case of seriously sloppy mud you are also likely to fill the vents in a standard rotor too, so issues with that all the way around.

The key is understanding why rotors are drilled and slotted and the pros and cons. In cases of very heavy braking and high heat the drilled and slotted rotors will cool faster and prevent gasses from building under the pad and causing it to float. This is at the cost of giving up swept area (friction providing surface). Everywhere the rotor is drilled or slotted is an area the pad is not contacting and generating friction. Used to be very common in race cars and still is in certain applications.

Very few road going vehicles (with the exception of super high end vehicles running a carbon/carbon setup that generate high heat under normal loads) will ever encounter these conditions. Its mostly for looks these days. More important is a high quality rotor casting with the right alloys, quality friction materials on the pad and keeping the pressure going to the piston and not expanding lines. Remember you are talking a very low volume of fluid at a very high pressure, even a small line expansion can reduce friction generating force.

On my car the brakes far out-perform the vehicles capabilities, the drilled and slotted rotors just look good, but don't provide any real benefit over solid rotors except in maybe an extreme braking situation. On my truck I want all the friction surface available, especially when towing. A combination of a quality alloyed rotor, great pad material and non expanding lines can make a huge difference in braking capability and durability. Best part is it is honestly not that expensive to do.

Just as changing from a factory shock to one specific to your driving style can make a huge improvement in your perceived driving and comfort experience, a quality and thought out brake upgrade can do the same. The factory brakes and shocks are actually pretty good, but they are built to a generalized ride quality standard and braking performance benchmarks with cost of production a key limiting factor. Like anything else on the truck they can be improved. IMO, unlike drivability concerns with big power or mileage concerns with larger or more aggressive tires, the only downside to a brake upgrade is cost.
03-07-2019 11:21 AM
Jimbo I have about 34,000 miles on my 2017. Just ordered the EBC orange pads. A buddy had them and loved them. I'll be sticking with the original rotors and will likely upgrade pads/rotors when these pads are worn.
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