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Exactly and in doing so has separated us from them.

The, “them” destroy “us” in social media reach, trends and energy in most cases.

We destroy “them” in jobs, income, goals, critical thought, meaningful education (informal and formal), common sense and motivation.


As long as we hold out we will be good to go but their influence though artificial is a challenge to overcome.


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This tool is very tempting. Any thoughts?

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That one may be a higher quality than the ones I have...which like to crush the filters and make a mess..
I've broken several cheap cup type filter "sockets".

The band clamp type seems to work the best, by far, but doesn't cover a large variation in filter diameters. Guess I should look into if there are smaller and larger versions.

The fabric one-size-fits-all is a decent last resort, I think, deforming the filters but generally still works, as does a chain wrench.

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That one may be a higher quality than the ones I have...which like to crush the filters and make a mess...
I didn't think about the jaws being able to crush to the point of puncturing the filter. I went ahead and ordered one. I'll let you know how it works. It has good reviews and is advertised to work well on all filters, including tractors and semi trucks.

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I've broken several cheap cup type filter "sockets".
I have some of those, too. Depending on the filter, they are hit and miss.

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The band clamp type seems to work the best, by far, but doesn't cover a large variation in filter diameters. Guess I should look into if there are smaller and larger versions.
Band wrenches work well if you have the right size and if you have enough room to use them. This is why I was interested in the "Universal 3 Jaw Oil Filter Wrench". This is one more optional tool to make filter removals a little easier.

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The fabric one-size-fits-all is a decent last resort, I think, deforming the filters but generally still works, as does a chain wrench.
I've never had a true fabric filter wrench, but I have used an old leather belt in a worse case scenario situation It took a long time, but it eventually worked when nothing else would.

When I was a kid, my dad taught me the screwdriver trick (puncturing the filter with a large screwdriver and using it as leverage), but as you mentioned, that's a messy way to do business.

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has good reviews and is advertised to work well on all filters, including tractors and semi trucks.


Band wrenches work well if you have the right size and if you have enough room to use them.
Well, by the time it's large enough to work on the oil filter on my Pete, for example, it'll be too large to fit a regular little pickup or car filter.
Either way, I really wouldn't want to make a hole in a filter that holds almost a gallon.

I meant the band type with a 3/8" drive hole on the side, not the ones with built in handles.

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I'm not a big fan of K&N, but I have to admit that their idea of putting a nut at the bottle of the filter was genius.


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Yes, a good idea that would be better yet if the correct end of the wrench was used when promoting it.

I'm sure the fastener industry love it that people use the open end of wrenches, not to mention adjustable wrenches.
Plus it created a whole new industry for specialty tools, for removal of rounded off fasteners.
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Yes, a good idea that would be better yet if the correct end of the wrench was used when promoting it.
I'm guessing for advertising purposes, K&N is wanting you to 'see' the wrench/nut combo to better illustrate what's going on.

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I'm sure the fastener industry love it that people use the open end of wrenches, not to mention adjustable wrenches.
Plus it created a whole new industry for specialty tools, for removal of rounded off fasteners.
I'm sure that Band-Aid is making a good profit, too.
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The Ecodiesel settlement court ruling is due on May 3. Unfortunately, I can't collect the $3,075 settlement check until I get the software update. The 4 year/48,000 mile extended warranty also doesn't begin until after the software fix has occurred. On one hand, I would love the money. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind pushing out the repair a little longer since I'm already covered under an existing warranty through June of 2020. Current owners have 18 months from the date the court issues final approval of the class settlement to submit a claim, and two years to complete the repair and receive compensation. I could really milk this out, but I wasn't planning to keep the Ecodiesel past June of 2020 and/or 100,000 miles! Decisions, decisions.....

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Rhett, that simple band one in the center is the best filter wrench I have...as long as it works on the diameter of the filter.
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Rhett, that simple band one in the center is the best filter wrench I have...as long as it works on the diameter of the filter.
Oh, now I see what you're talkin' about. Instead of the handle, it's designed for a 3/8" drive male end. Where did you find that?

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