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I still think they are going about the UREA wrong. At this point it's just a marketing scheme, but if they redid the entire emissions system to utilize UREA I think there would be some great improvements in mileage and reduced EGR. UREA isn't bad, but it is nice that GM and FURD are running it first to get the infrastructure up and running.
No offense but no urea would be a selling point for me. Thats just one less thing that you dont have to worry about..and from what i've heard about the urea injection for the chevy and ford you have to refill every 3-5000 miles why would you want to service your truck that quickly especially when we are getting upwards of 10k mile oil changes. And urea isnt exactly the cheapest thing to be putting in them. I mean diesel prices arent exactly the cheapest now anyways and cummins is the only option you have now that doesnt have urea. Now time will tell about the mpg factor for urea vs non urea; but, I dont think dodge would put something out that much more power and be terrible mileage. Time will tell..


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Top five reasons to love this article:

1. More Horsepower
2. More Torque
3. NO UREA
4. NO UREA
5. Did I mention NO UREA

Dont forget best looking too.

Im sold.... im getting tired of getting harrassed by cops for my truck so I think I'll get a 3500 dually, slap on some 22.5s, delete some poop and call it a day.

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Dont forget best looking too.

Im sold.... im getting tired of getting harrassed by cops for my truck so I think I'll get a 3500 dually, slap on some 22.5s, delete some poop and call it a day.
I wish I could agree with you but I am still not sold on the redesigned front end. I like my 07.5 better. (But I hated the 06' front end when it came out to so give me time)

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Guess Diesel Power will have to have another shoot out on I-70. On one hand I am glad they are being competitive, on the other hand, I am not looking forward to John Q. Public driving 30,000 pounds of truck and trailer.

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No offense but no urea would be a selling point for me. Thats just one less thing that you dont have to worry about..and from what i've heard about the urea injection for the chevy and ford you have to refill every 3-5000 miles why would you want to service your truck that quickly especially when we are getting upwards of 10k mile oil changes. And urea isnt exactly the cheapest thing to be putting in them. I mean diesel prices arent exactly the cheapest now anyways and cummins is the only option you have now that doesnt have urea. Now time will tell about the mpg factor for urea vs non urea; but, I dont think dodge would put something out that much more power and be terrible mileage. Time will tell..
the new fords and gms are getting far better mileage than the 6.7 dodge

the urea is a big part of it

yes you have to pay for the urea so you have to factor that into the cost per mile
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It sucks that you can't get a 6-speed with this engine and GVWR.... They almost got it perfect too!!

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It's about friggin time... I was wondering how long us Dodge enthusiasts were going to have to live at the bottom of the heap for HD truck performance numbers. Either way I probably won't buy one brand spankin new, but if business is looking good I might grab an HO 2500 crew cab to tow my dyno with

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In my opinion all of the truck makers have left behind a big part of the segment, those of us who don't need 800ft.lbs of torque and just want a fuel efficient 3/4 ton to use for a truck camper and occasional semi-heavy loads of firewood or building materials. I think that if you're not a dealership owner pulling a 6 car trailer, or something like that, these new diesels are way overkill.

The power level on my 98.5 is perfect for what I need and it has the great fuel mileage to go along with it, unlike the gasoline engine alternatives. Would I prefer to have a new truck and not have to pound my fist on the dashboard to get my headlights to turn on? Absolutely. I got all excited a couple years ago when Dodge announced Cummins was building a new small fuel-efficient diesel for them that would have about the same output as my 98.5, but then it never materialized. The wait continues.

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In my opinion all of the truck makers have left behind a big part of the segment, those of us who don't need 800ft.lbs of torque and just want a fuel efficient 3/4 ton to use for a truck camper and occasional semi-heavy loads of firewood or building materials. I think that if you're not a dealership owner pulling a 6 car trailer, or something like that, these new diesels are way overkill.

The power level on my 98.5 is perfect for what I need and it has the great fuel mileage to go along with it, unlike the gasoline engine alternatives. Would I prefer to have a new truck and not have to pound my fist on the dashboard to get my headlights to turn on? Absolutely. I got all excited a couple years ago when Dodge announced Cummins was building a new small fuel-efficient diesel for them that would have about the same output as my 98.5, but then it never materialized. The wait continues.

Yep, I fully agree. Seems odd that there is such a power war amongst the big three especially since the days of inexpensive diesel seem to be going away.

The majority of trailers being pulled by diesels are less than 12,000 pounds. A more powerful engine is definitely unnecessary for most people's needs.

I imagine the pendulum may start swinging the other way if diesel prices keep creeping up and stay there.
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Yep, I fully agree. Seems odd that there is such a power war amongst the big three especially since the days of inexpensive diesel seem to be going away.

The majority of trailers being pulled by diesels are less than 12,000 pounds. A more powerful engine is definitely unnecessary for most people's needs.

I imagine the pendulum may start swinging the other way if diesel prices keep creeping up and stay there.
Ever walked around a campground? Most of the 8000 trailers are being pulled by gassers. Trailers are getting bigger and bigger every year. When toyboxes came out that upped the competition.

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Diesel's are awesome in everyway. I pull a backhoe to any other kind of load everyday. I'll never buy a gas love the power and might I just add TURBO!!!!! I like big trucks and diesel have power anyday to lift and have big tires. I hated driving a gas with big tires and the transmission shifting from 4th to overdrive. Power and speed sucked!!!! Diesel Power all the way my friends!!!!!!!

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