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The perfect 2nd gen towing setup?

I am purchasing an automatic 99 3500 extended cab 4x4 in FL next weekend. The truck has a new Monster Trans with less than 2k miles on it, a Fass pump, CAI and exhaust but other than that, she's unmolested. I will be using this truck for towing my 5th wheel toyhauler which comes in at about 17k lbs. What upgrades do yall recommend I look into in regards to ensuring that kind of weight won't be a problem? She won't accumulate very many miles either as I typically ride my Harley to work, so only when its cold or raining.

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A manual swap. 😋

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Agreed. Personally I wouldn't overload a stock automatic transmission in these trucks.

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A simple shift kit and upgraded torque converter if your trans is stock. From there the truck will come alive with a tuner. Turbo could be upgraded to a he351cw for more response and flow if wanted.

That's as far as I would take it, any more and it becomes more fun and less work truck.

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dont listen to the manual swap guys. a perfectly built auto will do just fine. id get an exhaust brake and an iquad. maybe some small injectors if you want the stock turbo or look into a turbo/injector combo that works for what you are doing. biggest thing is an exhaust brake. you gotta stop what you are pulling! ive never had any issues pulling my 7x14 dump trailer with 15k of broken concrete. stopping is another thing

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dont listen to the manual swap guys. a perfectly built auto will do just fine. id get an exhaust brake and an iquad. maybe some small injectors if you want the stock turbo or look into a turbo/injector combo that works for what you are doing. biggest thing is an exhaust brake. you gotta stop what you are pulling! ive never had any issues pulling my 7x14 dump trailer with 15k of broken concrete. stopping is another thing <img src="https://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/images/CumminsForum_2016/smilies/tango_face_devil.png" border="0" alt="" title="Devil" class="inlineimg" />
A "fully built" auto is fine. A stock auto is far from it. Lol unless you have a bad leg, and cant use a clutch, manual swap+exhaust brake=the real deal.

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Thanks for the info guys but I stated in the original post that it has a new Monster Transmission in it already with less than 2k miles on it. Other than a tranny, is there anything else yall recommend?
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Not sure what all is done to a monster transmission. if it’s stock parts it won’t last behind a even mild tuned truck, especially when towing heavy.

What exactly is you goal with the truck. beside the lift pump and trans they do fine stock, so it really depends what you have in mind.

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A "fully built" auto is fine. A stock auto is far from it. Lol unless you have a bad leg, and cant use a clutch, manual swap+exhaust brake=the real deal.
it doesn't even need to be "fully built". if you are strictly going for towing, as the op mentioned, the weakest link in the 47re is the torque converter. all i have is an upgraded converter and vb and i haven't broke anything yet with 235k miles. and i have 110 horse injectors, stock turbo and an iquad that i turn down when towing and so far its held up great. the only reason to ever have a "fully built" tranny is if you are looking to crank out 500+ hp as a daily driver and then tow 15k+ pounds a few times a week. if i was going to drive my truck during the week and then do a tractor pull or two every month then i would look into upgrading the shafts, clutches etc...not that i'm advocating against a manual swap but i just cant justify the materials and labor involved unless you get the tranny for practically nothing. if you put that money towards a solid torque convertor and rebuild kit for an auto, you would probably be better off. unless your truck is just cursed from the get go or something along those lines lol.
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[QUOTE=53 block madness;28961545]it doesn't even need to be "fully built". if you are strictly going for towing, as the op mentioned, the weakest link in the 47re is the torque converter. all i have is an upgraded converter and vb and i haven't broke anything yet with 235k miles. and i have 110 horse injectors, stock turbo and an iquad that i turn down when towing and so far its held up great. the only reason to ever have a "fully built" tranny is if you are looking to crank out 500+ hp as a daily driver and then tow 15k+ pounds a few times a week. if i was going to drive my truck during the week and then do a tractor pull or two every month then i would look into upgrading the shafts, clutches etc...not that i'm advocating against a manual swap but i just cant justify the materials and labor involved unless you get the tranny for practically nothing. if you put that money towards a solid torque convertor and rebuild kit for an auto, you would probably be better off. unless your truck is just cursed from the get go or something along those lines lol.[/QUOTE

Yeah I will be keeping the auto tranny for sure. Do you have any plans for a slightly bigger turbo?
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Not sure what all is done to a monster transmission. if itís stock parts it wonít last behind a even mild tuned truck, especially when towing heavy.

What exactly is you goal with the truck. beside the lift pump and trans they do fine stock, so it really depends what you have in mind.
Just towing my 5th wheel once or twice a year. She will be my truck to get to work when its raining. Most of the time it'll be parked.
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I didnt know Monster did anything with 47re's. I know they do a ton of GM stuff, like the 4l60e (with little success as far as longevity, in my case.) But honestly In a daily driver situation, auto is convenient. Almost, dare I say... a luxury.

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