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Adrenaline vs adrenaline 4k board differences

I myself am not interested in upgrading my box to a 4k, but I know a lot of guys are. So I went out to the truck and pulled my box out and took it apart. Simple to do. There are 2 screws on the face of the unit that once out allow you to remove the board. I snapped a few pictures of the board. Keep in mind that this is a 98.5-00 adrenline. I would be interested to see some 01 and 02 boxes also, regardless of the 4k or standard.

Looking over it there are a few things that stick out as something that could be changed in order to allow for the 4k upgrade. I found a post from 2010 from quadzilla stating that the box needed a simple change internally that took less than a minute. I would assume , if this is the true, that this means that the change has to be pretty simple to do. Jason verified this in a thread recently about changing to 4k. He however stated that he has no interest in doing this for people so please don't bother him about it. We can't blame him for not wanting to pickup where quad left us hanging.

Here is the full front face of the board


Here is the full rear face ( mirror it in your mind to see the front vs back lineup of parts)



Here is the left side of the board. You have the 2x10 chip space empty and a jumper. Does anyone know what the jumper does? I have read that people reported removing the jumper for more accurate boost readings? https://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98...or-issues.html
Here is another thread to confirm this jumper has to do with boost and differences between year trucks.
https://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98...ml#post5389855


Here is the right side of the board showing the 2 things that I see as easy to replace. I believe that they are resitors, but I am not very good with techincal names. What I see however is the ability to easily solder a different part into place of it.


Here is the back as you can see there are only 4 items that I see as easily change able. Everything else is soldered into the middle boards of the main board. Two "resistors"? ( not up to snuff on technical names), a jumper, and an empty socket for a 2x10 chip



I figured that if we could get a picture or two of a 4k box internally that we might be able to spot the difference. Is anyone with a 4k box willing do take it apart and snap some pictures? It would be nice to put to rest the questions about going to 4k boxes and hopefully keep people from loading a 4k tune onto a regular box. Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of the "change" that needs to be made?


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Bump,


No one with a 4k box is willing to take a couple pictures?

Am I way off base here?

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Yea I really wish we could get some pictures of a 4k board so we could see if there are differences or if the update is a firmware update etc etc? It seems like multiple times a week this question comes up so it would be nice to have some proof instead of people saying this or that according to a friend etc etc.

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so to run a 4K tune you need to modify the hardware? i thought you just had to flash the programming...

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I never bought into the need to change hardware, the beta 4k tune worked great on my quad

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I never bought into the need to change hardware, the beta 4k tune worked great on my quad
Are you able to rev past 3200 rpm now? You just loaded a 4k tune onto the unit? I have heard horror stories about doing this and having a useless box. Again I heard this and can't actually say firsthand. Can you post images of your box? your custom tuning page?


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so to run a 4K tune you need to modify the hardware? i thought you just had to flash the programming...
This is where the issues come up. Quad had said in the past (take it for what you want) that there was an internal change that had to be made that took around a minute to do.

I don't doubt that there needs to be a firmware update to happen in order to go from reg to 4k but I am not sure about the hardware. That is the reason for this thread. if we could get internal pictures of a original 4k we could know for sure if there were internal changes made or not.

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subscribed. I would take pics if i had a 4k box. If it were just a update then I think you wouldn't have to send it in. I think u are on track.

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I like this thread. Sorry no adrenalines to show you but I definitely buy in to what you are doing here!


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I like this thread. Sorry no adrenalines to show you but I definitely buy in to what you are doing here!


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Bump,


No one with a 4k box is willing to take a couple pictures?

Am I way off base here?
I don't think your off base at all.

I was on the fence about trying quad/adrenaline right around the time they went MIA. Still running Edge Comp "HOT"...

Anyway, the main reason for my response is...

It's nice to read a thread that was well thought out, articulated well with clear photos.

Prospective poster's should take note and follow suit!

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Many years on forums here and there have taught me how to make a thread that is worth the time to read.

Thanks again guys. I might have to resort to pm'ing guys with the 4k box and see if they can't take a couple minutes to pull it apart and snap a few pictures.

I have a hard time believing that Quadzilla would have a circuit board made that had that 2x10 chip in it without reason for it. It would be nice to know what the hardware differences are between the years and model of the adrenaline.

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