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Best tie rod mod, what is it?

I have neglected my front end-or dodge has neglected me
Answer is the same -
What is the very best tie rod set up for standard ride height one ton dually?
I have read and reread.
I even at one point bought a ream for a newer generation assembly.
SO which one ?
and best place to purchase?
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Key notes....
Once you go splines balljoints, you cannot go back . They are just a touch larger.
Also...Moog problem solved is slightly smaller than Napas.

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Will also add....
When greasing your balljoints
1) jack wheel up, taking weight off it
2) pump new grease in did, all.the old grease comes out. Yes...greasable balljoints are built with a hole for the specific purpose of expelling the old grease
3) go nonGreasable balljoints if you have the option. They are sealed better. Should last longer

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I've put 300k miles on my truck. Bought it with 100k, at 400k now.
I've been replacing balljoints, steering joints about every 2yrs max.
This last time, after a fair bit of searching trying to figure out why I replace so often, is when I found I've been getting them wrong this whole time.
I dont forsee ballhoints, or steering joint replacement no where near as often now.
Oh..and I've been using Moog, or Napa the whole time.
I didn't recommend a brand, since now...I honestly believe their longevity is more determined by proper maintenance than anything else.
Which..is why I will use nonGreasable from here in out when that is an option.
My truck...a shop had installed splined Napa balljoints , and now I'm forced to continue with splined Napa... which also forces me to use Greasable balljoints.
Since the whole is now slightly larger, and the other brand slide halfway in by hand before they even start to catch.

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The kind of Tie rod that is better-
It is called a Y rod?
or a "T" rod because of how it connects to the other side.
anyone know a part number ?

I know the taper is different in the spindles supposedly.
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in your years case.....the factory design of the HD T is best.

from where...good luck. Synergy or EMF joints are probably the best

the reaming you speak of is forthe 08.5 and up mopar....and all of those are garbage as well.

Synergy makes one for all years as well, but just order for your year.

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I know there is a big difference between the "Y" and the "T" style tie rod configurations.
It took me a while, but I think I got the parts figured out, thanx

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they offer both....
the T has a solid crossover from knuckle to knuckle, and the drag link is within those ends.

the Y is just that, draglink to pass knuckle and the driver toerod comes from that.

the Y actually drives better.

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You should already have the T style, being as your truck is a 98. I went with moog on mine, doubt its the best but at less than $300 its good enough and fairy simple to replace when the time comes again.

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Mine is the old style "Y"
I am convinced to put the newer stuff under it

https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/?...=52122362AF%20

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Afterburn549, just to save you some embarrassment when talking about this with your buddies down the road. T style and Y style are not the tie rods themselves. But how the steering system is linked up.
So..you would say..." I converted my truck from the old Y style steering, to the T style steering. And I used Moog tie rods" ...
or XRF, or whatever brand you choose.
Will make more sense once you install it.
The steering system literally forms a Y, or T, in how it links the wheels together.

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Mine is the old style "Y"
I am convinced to put the newer stuff under it

https://parts.moparonlineparts.com/?...=52122362AF%20
couple issues with a pre 2000 truck....knuckle tapers for the tre are slightly different and need to be reamed. the overall width from knuckle to knuckle is a tad narrow. it may require ttimming the crossover or draglink or both...be careful here, if a part ever breaks and you cannot modify the available, you may be stranded.

to date, none of the shelf parts store parts have been great.
the mopar is junk, moog is hit or miss and in my case, the napa pro chassis has been ok. aside from aftermarket expensive ends and tube, your options are limited.

the junk foreign parts have no quality and price is going up.

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