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Payload question

I have a stock 2500, quad cab, short bed.
I found a great deal on a cab over camper, wife really wants it. The dry weight of camper is 1500 lbs. don’t really understand how to figure payload, so basically is this payload weigh ok? Would anyone think I would have to bag the truck? it won’t be on all the time just to use on occasion. I still have stock trans, will this weight kill the stock trans? Sorry if this is a dumb question. I just don’t want a fun project to turn into a big headache for me. Thanks in advance

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A camper is not going to stress the transmission at all. And payload is the amount of weight the truck can carry. 1500 lbs is fine but you'll want E rated tires and some sturdy shocks to handle sway.

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I’m glad I put on e rated tires last year
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Katoom i right on. But. 2500's are not "rated " for cab over campers based more on center of gravity more than payload. But 1500 is light for a cabover. Is it designed for a short bed? Meaning the bottom is not over 8 ft and will end at the tailgate. Your load capacity is about 2200, that counts camper, passengers and cargo. Overall you will be fine from practical point of view. HD or adjustable shocks needed. Camper special package option build code AHJ,(overloads and sway bar) is best Airbags are fine if you want them, they may help. If your truck does not have it you can get it from the wrecking yard and bolt right on

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The only issue is whether it’s a shortbox style camper or not. If it’s a longbox camper you don’t wanna go over 8’ floor length.

Camper “dry weights” are 100% BS. In the truck camper world (that I’ve been in for 30 years), you can generally add 800-1000 pounds to the so-called “dry weight” to come closer to what it’ll really weigh all set to go.
Literally no RV ever weighs the “dry weight” going down the road. Scale it, you’ll see.

The truck has the same chassis as the long bed, just shorter. They make lots of campers for them. Run E-rated tires.
You can use air bags or for a simple and cheap solution that’s very effective and popular among truck campers, look into “Timbren” overloads. Personally I like airbags with an onboard compressor because it’s so easily adjustable to however stiff I need.

If you don’t have a sway bar, you might want one. Helwig makes one that fits these trucks. I’ve got one on mine.

The advertised load capacity on pretty much all 3/4 ton trucks is artificially low. That number is usually pulled out of a hat for licensing reasons. Nothing to do with what the parts in the truck are capable of. Dana rates your rear axle a whole lot higher than Dodge does. Generally with a truck camper your real limit is your tire capacity. But you’re fine with any shortbed camper, unless it’s one of a couple newer triple-slide-out short box monsters they’re making nowadays. If yours has a 1500 pound “dry weight” it’s gonna be fine, even though it’s gonna weigh more than that.
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Thank for reply’s. I am positive it’s 8’. It’s a 8’ Alaskan hard sided pop up cab over. I called Alaskan to get the 1500 lbs weight number. While my wife wants it for a project, it will mostly get used for a rolling bunk house when I hunt in Mexico. I’ll probably remove things like the fridge and stove. And make strictly a bunk house maybe room for cooler, dog, gun rack etc.
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When I bought my truck new there was a "camper package" option.
My truck has this option.
I believe this is just extra leaf springs.
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After seeing last post I went and looked under my truck it has the same leaf set up as well as a rear sway bar
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After seeing last post I went and looked under my truck it has the same leaf set up as well as a rear sway bar
That would be the Camper Special. But... you'll still be needing some good shocks as campers will cause considerable side to side roll on a SRW truck.

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