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Craigslist Turbo. Good Idea?

I found a turbo HX35 off a 96 on my local Craigslist with a Banks Exhaust Housing on it with what the guy says is a “Fathead” wastegate I think he means to say is “Bighead”.

Is $400 a good price for me to pay or should I be trying for lower? What is it worth?

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* 147,000 miles with the Banks put on 5,000 ago.
* No play in shaft
* daily driver

I am thinking of putting it on my 97 for +1 mpg and some power.

Is there such a thing as a “Fathead” wastegate?
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Is this a good Idea or should I let it go?



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ummmm i wouldnt do it myself. too iffy unless you go check it out in person

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Why would you pay $400 for what you already have? And how would that give you more mpg?
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Yeah, I don't think you'll get any better mileage out of that. Also, I don't know what the turbine housings run, but I doubt they're much over 400 bucks. At least if you buy a new one, you'll know the condition of your own turbocharger. Who knows what shape that one's in. I'd check how much it costs to get a banks turbine housing with the bighead wastegate on it.

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I can pick up a new housing off of eBay for around $430 and install it on my turbo and I agree $400 is a little high I was thinking around $300 would be a better deal maybe offer $275. i was just kicking the Idea a round.

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Just the other day I watched a 18.5cm housing go for $30. I don't think I'd pay more than $200 for one for an hx35, they aren't worth engough to invest a lot of money in.

Heres an idea to kick around, find someone with a stock 12cm housing laying around, buy it for cheap, port it and cut out the divider so it vents all six cylinders. And if you really want to buy the BD wastegate acutator, or just use a boost elbow for the same effect. All could be done for less then $250, and it would be much better than a banks unit

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I don't know what size the banks turbine housing is, but I've found out that the larger the turbine housing, (not compressor) the slower the spool. However, the smaller the turbine housing, the higher the EGT's. But with a smaller turbine housing, you can get very nice spool. I bought a Super B single and thought it spooled a little slow, so I called up BD and they machined me a turbine housing that was smaller than the regular Super B. My egt's went up a little bit, but it spools quick! In fact, when I'm making 20 psi boost, I can clutch, shift, and get the power back to the ground before the boost gets back down to 5 psi. In other words, I never fully loose boost even though I drive a stick shift.

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Ever since i got a 2700$$ check from sellin stuff on craigs list for $400 i dont do anybusniess on there. I dont like gettin frauded checks or being tempted to go and cash one and go nuts with it. One of the hardest things I've done was turing that check to the fraud dept and not spendin it cuz it showed up randomly. wasnt till a few weeks after it i found out if was for an edge i was sellin there for 400$. If you want a hx35 i'll sell you m ine for $300 lol. 210k miles on it, no play in shaft daily driver. with a boost fooler fitting.

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thanks for the advice.

if anyone is interested... like if they burned up a turbo and need a replacement here is the link and it is in Austin, TX.

http://austin.craigslist.org/pts/703674995.html

copy of the fallow up e-mail that he wrote me in all caps.

"THE TURBO IS OFF OF A 1996 12 VALVE ENGINE THAT HAS 146,000. THE TRUCK IS FOR PERSONAL USE, A SMALL BOX TRAILE THAT IS USED TO HAUL TWO HARLEYS IS ALL IT HAS EVER PULLED. THE TURBO SHAFT IS TIGHT AND THE BANKS HOUSING AND FAT HEAD WASTE GATE HAS ABOUT 5000 MILES. THE UNIT SHOULD BOLT UP TO YOUR ENGINES STOCK MANIFOLD WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM. I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THE MODEL HOWEVER I WILL LOOK AT IT TODAY AND EMAIL YOU.
I AM IN THE PROCESS OF REPLACING IT WITH A GARRETT BALL BEARING TURBO, THE TRUCK PERFORMS VARY WELL WITH THE CURRENT SET UP."

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Look at my forsale section ... I have a hx35 w/ 16 housing forsale. :thumbsup

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i will look at it

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I don't know what size the banks turbine housing is, but I've found out that the larger the turbine housing, (not compressor) the slower the spool. However, the smaller the turbine housing, the higher the EGT's. But with a smaller turbine housing, you can get very nice spool. I bought a Super B single and thought it spooled a little slow, so I called up BD and they machined me a turbine housing that was smaller than the regular Super B. My egt's went up a little bit, but it spools quick! In fact, when I'm making 20 psi boost, I can clutch, shift, and get the power back to the ground before the boost gets back down to 5 psi. In other words, I never fully loose boost even though I drive a stick shift.

Banks is a 14cm. The super B is also a 14cm.

II and HTT both sell 12cm housings for an s300. HTT even sells 13 and 16cm stainless steel housings.

Carefull dumping the throttle quick like that, you don't want to bark the turbo too much

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