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Seriously thinking about one of these...

It's not cheap.

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The Suburban puling the big truck out is so hokey I wouldn't do business with them.

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Yeah, it's hokey but that doesn't bother me at all. Their products are top notch. Years ago this was something that was a pipe dream and now they have a bolt on kit for guys like me who want 6 gears and the best light duty tranny out there. Not only would I get more gears, the 2nd overdrive is .614:1 instead of my .69:1. That will drop my rpm by 250 on long trips. That's huge considering I have 4.10s. I'll probably gain 2-3 mpg (unloaded).

The biggest issue for me is finding a shop where I can tear my truck apart. I want to do this as well as replace the oil pan, put in new upper and lower ball joints, and do a few other things. Otherwise, I'd probably just buy a brand new one. I was looking, but I don't like the prices on new. They've just gotten extreme.

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Yeah, it's hokey but that doesn't bother me at all. Their products are top notch. Years ago this was something that was a pipe dream and now they have a bolt on kit for guys like me who want 6 gears and the best light duty tranny out there. Not only would I get more gears, the 2nd overdrive is .614:1 instead of my .69:1. That will drop my rpm by 250 on long trips. That's huge considering I have 4.10s. I'll probably gain 2-3 mpg (unloaded).

The biggest issue for me is finding a shop where I can tear my truck apart. I want to do this as well as replace the oil pan, put in new upper and lower ball joints, and do a few other things. Otherwise, I'd probably just buy a brand new one. I was looking, but I don't like the prices on new. They've just gotten extreme.

I would recommend a g56 or nv5600 but the overdrive probably isnt as good.

I love my g56 but using the clutch while shifting was tough to get used too. Now I love it, especially when towing.

The alison is great transmission for work trucks that tow and haul. we have a lot of old trucks with them and they rarely give us problems.

Its a great conversion starter too 😎

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I would recommend a g56 or nv5600 but the overdrive probably isnt as good.

I love my g56 but using the clutch while shifting was tough to get used too. Now I love it, especially when towing.

The alison is great transmission for work trucks that tow and haul. we have a lot of old trucks with them and they rarely give us problems.

Its a great conversion starter too 😎
Every time I drove the Duramax with the Allison I just loved the tranny. I'm thinking that's the ticket for my truck. I've really been hemming and hawing this winter on whether or not to get a new rig. I even looked at some gently used 4th gens, etc. I never found anything I liked for the price, new or used.

There was a 2007 with a G56 with 100,000 miles, really clean, but the guy wanted over $30k for it and I just couldn't see paying that much for a truck with over 100k miles. No way. Every time I look at something I like my old truck better, I just want a different transmission. If I was a flatlander then the 47re would be fine, but I spend a ton of time in the mountains, oftentimes hauling heavy weight.

I'm thinking of doing the conversion and also putting a Norstar flatbed on the truck. I've needed it with the work I've been doing. It would come in really handy. That will also give me the opportunity to steam clean everything from the cab back, then paint the frame before I put the bed on.

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Flat beds are nice, they do tend to raise the floor height vs the bed, which is a little annoying.

When my replacement bed rusts out again i will throw a Bradford built on there or something.

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The Suburban puling the big truck out is so hokey I wouldn't do business with them.
Typical and expected. Bravo!

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I looked at that but it required many adaptors. I went with the 68rfe conversion and ended up with the same amount of gears but with a better gear spread. I now have 6 speeds with a manual override of 1-6 and lock-up in in 3rd through 6th in TH and in 4th through 6th in regular with 6th lock-out if needed. Couldn't be happier. It is almost a bolt up/in conversion.
Good luck.

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I looked at that but it required many adaptors. I went with the 68rfe conversion and ended up with the same amount of gears but with a better gear spread. I now have 6 speeds with a manual override of 1-6 and lock-up in in 3rd through 6th in TH and in 4th through 6th in regular with 6th lock-out if needed. Couldn't be happier. It is almost a bolt up/in conversion.
Good luck.
Curious regarding your conversion. What specialty parts did you need? Where did you get the electronics, etc.?

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Typical and expected. Bravo!
I think of the movie Bambi when you do this....

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I hope that if you do this allison, you post lots of photos. I'm a stick guy, but I've been very impressed with every allison I've driven. I sometimes find myself reaching for 7th gear on my nv5600.

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