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post #13 of 60 (permalink) Old 09-18-2009, 04:32 AM Thread Starter
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stock 2nd gen inj - vary depending on model but all are 145 injectors

49 state 160 hp - 5x9 .000318

49 state 175 hp 5x9 .000318

180 hp 5x9.5 .000354

160 hp cpl 1863, (actually a 180) 5x9.5 .000354

all calif trucks '96-98 were 180 hp = 5x9.5 .000354

215 hp - 5x10.25 .01025 .000412


300's and 330's same size - 4x12 = .000452

370's - 5x12 = .000565 155 spray pattern

435's - 5x014 = .000769 avail in both 155 and 145 spray pattern



ddp stg III (90 hp) = 50 LPM (liter per minute) 155 5 hole extrude hone inj <5x12 270 bar

ddp stg IV (140 hp) = 66 lpm - 5 holes smaller than .0135 270 bar

ddp stg 4plus - no longer avail now considered comp waiver must be signed to obtain

ddp comp = 73-90 lpm depending on application same for pop

all four start out as 155 marine nozzles and are extrude honed

the flow numbers (lpm) i posted is what was printed on boxes that i received from ddp

there are posts on other forums that vary slightly with these numbers

measured the holes myself (.0135 would not go in a stg 4 ect)

have not used 50 or 75 hp ddp inj - have no idea what size the holes are



custom injectors -

5x.012 = .000565

5x13 = .000663

5x14 = .000769

7x10 = .000549 (24v conv inj are usually 7 hole)

7x12 = .000794

6x13 = .000795

5x15 = .000882

6x14 = .000923

5x16 = .001005

6x15 = .001059

7x14 = .001077

5x17 = .001134

6x16 = .001206

5x18 = .001272

6x17 = .001360

5x19 = .001416

6x18 = .001526

5x20 = .001570

ind inj super dragon flows (10 hole) - 5x10.25 + 5x18 .001684

6x20 = .001884

5x22 = .001900

5x24 = .002261

6x22 = .002280

5x25 = .002459 (this is what some refer to as a true competition injector)


*i figured out the csa (cross sectional area) for ea injector. those numbers are in bold

if you want to figure 24v stuff or something that is not on the chart use r x pi x # of holes

take the hole size divided by 2 times pi (3.14259) times the number of holes


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wow this is a great thread, the pensacola's(stage 2) i had were 6 hole, i have no idea what they were, i always assumed they were marine 300's but now i really dont know seeing that 300's are 4 hole... anyone with any ideas?

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thanks, i added the csa for some more of the popular custom sizes

guess its not worthy of a sticky

no one needs to know what size their injectors are or how they compare to other injectors?


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wow this is a great thread

the pensacola's(stage 2) i had were 6 hole

i have no idea what they were, i always assumed they were marine 300's but now i really dont know seeing that 300's are 4 hole... anyone with any ideas?
think you could pm a mod and tell him so?

pensacola's(stage 2) are 4 hole...i dont know what you had

they are made in china

the entire injector
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I had Pensacola Stg. 2's in one of my trucks. They may only retail for $214, but you GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR! They are awful injectors and I will never run another set. I wouldn't have bought them, but they were in the truck when I bought it.

BTW DTanklage, this is a fantastic thread with great info. I've been wondering about my 435's for ages.

This is very useful info and very easy to read, great job.

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your welcome

plz pm a mod and request it be made a sticky

its info that i as a newbie was very curious about and a lot of research and time went into making this chart

we still need a piston chart with years and p/n's and the different bowl dimensions

the two go hand in hand ya know...
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Nice write up Don!
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thanks

and thanks to who ever stickied it

who is gonna make a turbo chart for the newbie???

"suber b what?"

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Don,
DDP1s and 2s arent a marine nozzle, they are 145* truck nozzles.
Add that to the list.

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don would you be able to figure out the csa for a 7x10 and 7x14 also
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don would you be able to figure out the csa for a 7x10 and 7x14 also
thanks kyle
r x pi x # of holes

7x10 - .000549

7x14 - .001077

to figure csa of an injector i take the hole size divided by 2 times pi (3.14259) times the number of holes

a 7x10 has seven .010" holes

a 7x14 is bout twice as big ( ! ) thats why you have to look at csa

off topic but you should see what happens when you start increasing the size of a nitrous jet
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thanks i was just curious as im going to be running a 7x12 once the nozzles get sorted out and was curious how much bigger a 7x14 was cause i know they can easily fuel a 3.0 turbo with a ppump 24v and a 7x14 would be the next step if i ever got a larger turbo. You can do so much with a 7x10 injector i cant imagine the fueling you can do with a 7x14
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