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Pdd 5x12s with k27 n no fuel plate?

Any one try this combo? I am currently not running a fuel plate in my 95 dodge and have ordered the aforementioned items from PDD. Will my truck be happy set up like this egt wise? Any guesstimates on power it might make?

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Probably be a little warm on the egt side. Hp wise some where in the 300hp range. If I were u I would put a set of 4k Gov springs in it to while ur at it and bump the timing up to. Also work on a AFC also.

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I would consider a fuel plate. I know some don't and have fun. At least with the fuel plate you will be able to control EGT's if you don't want to rely on your right foot.
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You don't need to worry. Your egt will be fine. 5x12's aren't that big and your pump is small on a 95. Have fun and break stuff so you can have a great weekend getting greasy and drinking beer

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Iím not someone that worries about egts much, but that setup could get much warmer than a lot are comfortable with. I have run 5x12s and a little 160hp pump with a 62/65/12 turbo, and could pin a 1600 egt gauge when running without a plate. If youíre comfortable with that, no problem. Otherwise, Iíd use a plate.

Iíve made ~750hp with a 160hp pump that had a plate in it, a 400hp build without one doesnít make much sense to me.

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EGT is all about the driver comfort level until you start hitting high numbers like 2k.

I pulled with 5x18 and an Aurora 5000 for years. Temps would always be at 1600 - 1800 up passes and 12-1300 down the road.

I have seen 12v take some serious heat. To me hitting 1600 for a short sprint is nothing to worry about.

But like the above post, everyone has different opinions

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If I decided to run a plate again, which one would be best? Stock plate? Number 10?11? I do want to be able to tow with this setup.
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Best is purely an opinion, and it might not agree with yours. I towed with an 11 plate for years, then found a custom grind at a local pump shop that is much more friendly with an otherwise stock engine. It pushed my HP from 215 at the flywheel to 313 at the rear wheels. For sure you don't want stock, but there are good things said about a 10, a 100 and a zero. It all depends on your driving habits and what you expect from the truck when you are not hooked to a trailer. Each one has a different profile for when fuel is added and when it is maxed out. There is also timing adjustments to consider. You could take the expensive/easy way out and get an AFC live, adjust it to where you want it, then have a dash ornament.

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I'm currently running this combination with 17 deg of timing and the 5x12's can certainly drive the system to EGTs that are out of my comfort zone. I do actually have a AFC Live and it's very effective at limiting top-end fuel to whereever I want; basically I can choose my max EGT and set it relatively easily. I wouldn't want to run this setup without a fuel plate. I'll be switching up my turbo setup here before too long and am pretty happy that I'll be able to dial in the fueling, relatively easily, without opening up the AFC.

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If I decided to run a plate again, which one would be best? Stock plate? Number 10?11? I do want to be able to tow with this setup.
Do some searching on custom profiling your own plate. It takes machinist dye and some time to do it. But once you have a plate custom profiled to match your build and useage, itís nice to set it and forget it.

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