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The Goodyears on my wife's last 2 leases were showing steel at 15,000 miles.
And that's another reason I like bias ply tires.
Okay, maybe not on a Ram.


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Iím at 67k km on my factory transforce. They wonít do the winter but if I had a second set of rims they would make another summer.
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Iíd consider yourself lucky that you could get between 20-30K on these tires if you actually haul and tow anywhere close to what these trucks are designed for. Only way I got 33K was by running a different set during the winter, and then stretching the Firestones farther than any other tires Iíve owned in terms of wear. (Always ran full recommended PSI too)

Many people are pulling these off their trucks immediately to upgrade wheels and tires, so I have bought three sets of new take off wheels and tires for $5-700... when you consider that cost at 20-30K miles itís very reasonable since you can sell the (Black, not chrome) wheels for $4-600 once you are done with the tires.

I actually think they ride decent, and are plenty of traction for summer driving, but wouldnít risk any amount of winter driving on them, unless youíre a flat lander.


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Ive read it and been told it. And only got 10,500 miles out of my OEM 285/60R20 Firestone Piece of Crap Transforce ATís as living, down to the wear bars, proof.
I ever said they were made to be dangerous, I said they werenít made of the same compounds as a tire store tire where they have to provide a wear guarantee.
You must have got a bad batch...shot @ 10K miles? I cut the sidewall on one of the OEM AT's @ 40K, could have gone another 10K safely but I opted for a new set of Michelins rather than replacing just one of the OEM's. Should have done it sooner, as the Michelins are a much superior tire re traction, ride, etc.

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Many people are pulling these off their trucks immediately to upgrade wheels and tires, so I have bought three sets of new take off wheels and tires for $5-700...
Upgrade? Changing to something aftermarket isn't synonymous with upgrading.
In the case of Transforce tires, yes, all but the cheapest Chinese tires probably are an upgrade, but the wheels?!?

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Try Transforce AT2s. I have them on mine and they are the best tires yet. Supposed to be a much better compound than the ATs. My Ram started with Nexan Rodians, which I had to replace at 35k miles with Transforce HTs. The HTs lasted 60k miles, but they didn't do well off highway. So I bought AT2s, have about 15k on them now and they still look new. Traction off road is much better.
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You must have got a bad batch...shot @ 10K miles? I cut the sidewall on one of the OEM AT's @ 40K, could have gone another 10K safely but I opted for a new set of Michelins rather than replacing just one of the OEM's. Should have done it sooner, as the Michelins are a much superior tire re traction, ride, etc.
It blew me away how fast they went. Itís like it was happening while I was asleep!

I run new Michelin take offs now. 2 sets already. Buy them cheap and Last 3 years. I run different tires in winter.

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OEM tires are made for the new vehicle manufacturer’s specifically for looks and not longevity. They are not the same tires you’ll buy, same brand, from the tire store. Components are different.
I've been tire tech/lube tech/mechanic for 15 years and can confirm that yes this IS in fact true. Most manufacturers will put low tread life tires on new vehicles, FROM factory. Yes it is a different tire than what you'd typically purchase for your car or truck, as you'd likely not put the same tire, with the same tread life on you car, if they wore down that fast. I know I wouldn't. They key is looking at the specifics of the ratings....every tire has them, I've always been told, even look at Costco brand tires. You'll go get a quote and give your tire size and what not and even the exact tire you want, and they will sell you a lower speed rated tire, made at a different factory, with different tread life than what you ask for. How the hell do people think they sell their tires so cheap??

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I'm not sure if one of the above posters had better tires on his truck or not, but as a person who's changed hundreds and hundreds of tires over his career, yes, manufacturers will put a new, low quality tire on a new car that has low to little tread life or wear rating, with the intended purpose of selling you more later.

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Upgrade? Changing to something aftermarket isn't synonymous with upgrading.

In the case of Transforce tires, yes, all but the cheapest Chinese tires probably are an upgrade, but the wheels?!?


Agreed. Which is why I bought so many sets of them over the last 3 years. Although there are definitely OEM wheels that just donít look good on certain trim levels. Didnít think Iíd find an aftermarket set that I liked, was affordable, and was rated at least as high as OEM. I ended up looking for a wider set of 18s so I could run 305/65 Load F 128Q ď12 plyĒ 80 PSI Ridge Grapplers, and got lucky by finding an awesome deal on a Black Rhino set that is up to the task.
(I still run OEM 20s for my winter set)

A lot of people are motivated by appearance only. The guy at the tire shop said ďappearance is everything...Ē. And then they donít keep in mind any of the load ratings while selling you something.


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A lot of people are motivated by appearance only. The guy at the tire shop said ďappearance is everything...Ē. And then they donít keep in mind any of the load ratings while selling you something.
That's part of the beauty, so to speak, of OE wheels; so many change them out to something "different" that the OE wheels almost become different.

As an added bonus, they have been extensively tested, have all the correct dimensions, and are generally cheap to buy.

Appearance? Well, that's highly subjective. I certainly don't like the looks of all OE wheels, but on the other hand, quite a few of the aftermarket offerings are hideous, I think.
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Appearance? Well, that's highly subjective. I certainly don't like the looks of all OE wheels, but on the other hand, quite a few of the aftermarket offerings are hideous, I think.

I agree that the majority of aftermarket options are hideous. At least there are options to ďmake your truck yoursĒ I guess... I know there are plenty of people out there that wouldnít agree with the set up on my rig, but it serves me well and thatís itís purpose, not impressing people that only judge a book by its cover... life is too short to worry about that.




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That's part of the beauty, so to speak, of OE wheels; so many change them out to something "different" that the OE wheels almost become different.



As an added bonus, they have been extensively tested, have all the correct dimensions, and are generally cheap to buy.



Appearance? Well, that's highly subjective. I certainly don't like the looks of all OE wheels, but on the other hand, quite a few of the aftermarket offerings are hideous, I think.


I prefer most oem rims on the higher trimmed vehicles. Aftermarket rims are everywhere and like you said are less different than having oem.
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