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Hellow all, I am looking for some advise, as the title says. This was part of another thread I posted yesterday but got no answers whatsoever. I am going to go see this truck today and try to work out a deal.

1. How are the 2013 3500's as far as common issues?

2. Is it true that with the only available ASIN/3:42 combo, the truck seems to have a serious lag on take off and when passing? Has the ECU been updated to make that better? That would be a real deal barker for me.

3. How is the suspension/front end on these new Mexicans? (Dark Humor)

I know a 3500 would be overkill fro what I do, though I am in construction, the only thing I tow now a days is my 29' TT which weighs just under 10K# fully loaded. However, a 2013 leftover may be a hard to pass deal, specially being just a couple of months from becoming a 2 year leftover

Thank you all in advance for the info and advice.


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Some reading if you want.

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WOW, that about answers all my questions and then some. I wonder how much of this stuff has to do with the location of the plant and their quality control (or lack thereof) I bought my wife a VW Beetle convertible a few years back (assembled in Mejico) and that thing would have something broke every other day. Sold it after 5000 miles of "happy ownership"
I am really second guessing myself about shelling out $50K plus on a truck with such history of issues.
Either the GM fans are in denial or GM is putting a better quality product out there. Wish they had the Cummins in them.
I loved my 2006 Ram CTD, but the amount of issues (none Cummins related) I had with it were unreal.

-48RE (several)
-Sunroof leaks
-Front end (ball joints)
-48RE... 48RE... and so on.

The other issues I had were self inflicted, caused by lift and tires so it is not fair to mention them.

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I can say that my 2012 has been very reliable, and only one issue. The dash mounted brake controller was replaced last April, under warranty. I see 18-19 mpg solo on the interstate, 7-11 mpg towing, depending on conditions. I'm as pleased today, as I was in 2012 when I purchased the truck.

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Hellow all, I am looking for some advise, as the title says. This was part of another thread I posted yesterday but got no answers whatsoever. I am going to go see this truck today and try to work out a deal.

1. How are the 2013 3500's as far as common issues?

2. Is it true that with the only available ASIN/3:42 combo, the truck seems to have a serious lag on take off and when passing? Has the ECU been updated to make that better? That would be a real deal barker for me.

3. How is the suspension/front end on these new Mexicans? (Dark Humor)

I know a 3500 would be overkill fro what I do, though I am in construction, the only thing I tow now a days is my 29' TT which weighs just under 10K# fully loaded. However, a 2013 leftover may be a hard to pass deal, specially being just a couple of months from becoming a 2 year leftover

Thank you all in advance for the info and advice.
An ECU update isn't going to help a tall gear ratio like the 3.42. I think a 3.42 gear will be fine with 10,000 pounds on flat land but if you want to be a speed demon at passing with that kind of weight you may want to consider a truck with a 3.73 gear especially on hills. I have 4,10's in mine and it doesn't know what a hill is with the kind of weight you're talking about although I pay for that luxury on fuel mileage.

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If you get a good enough deal, you could always have the gears changed to 3.73 if that's what you want. Its really not that expensive. I know cause I plan on swapping my 3.73's for 4.10's.

8lugtruckgear.com has great prices on gears. The interior of the 2013's sure are nice

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i bought a left over 2013 3500 DRW Mega 4x4 last month. Its got the 68E transmission and CTD with 3.73 gears. I paid $49,000 out the door for it. The sticker was $60k+. With tax and BS fees, it would have been close to $68k. I think i got a fantastic deal. I havent had a single issue at all. It has the new front suspension and runs strong. I just did the new software update without a hitch. The interior is nice and the ride is better than I expected. Coming from a SRW I am still getting used to parking and taking corners. The DRW i didnt need but the dealer had this 1 left over and he was willing to let it go for many thousands less than a SRW truck.

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I was the same way. I had been driving hand shakers my whole life and when I sold my 07 to my buddy and wanted to move up to a dully, I searched high and low for a new left over 2012 and couldn't find one in a manual. I flew out to Idaho in April 2013 and bought my 2012 leftover from Dave Smith Motors. $63k sticker, and I was $49k out the door. Of course Michigan hammered me on the sales tax of the MSRP instead of what I paid, but that's another story.

I didn't think I was going to like the automatic, but its growing on me. Kinda nice to tool around and drink coffee and just let it shift its self.

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Would anyone mind telling me what a "left over" is?

Never hear the term used before.

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Left over = a previous model year still on the lot with newer models
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