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2013 Grille in 2012 Truck "How To"

I'm having a huge issue with Photobucket.com and I can't provide the professinial type photos and "how to" I"d like. I'll come back and replace sections as I can when the photobucket site allows me to get my photos accordingly.

Here is how it works....

First off, I wanted to keep the grille 100% perfect so I could sell or return it if needed. In saying that, you have to retro the vehicle side of things. There are a millions ways to make this grille work, this is just one. As you know, there is a square port where your 12 grille fits now at the bottom. That's what you have to alter. I made things where the old grille pops right back in, and the new grille has NO damage at all. All of the work was done back at the vehicle side. Note: the four screws at the top of the grille align up perfect, it's only the bottom two round inserts that have alignment issues. To some this might be a real pain in the a$$ to install...

to start I'm showing the old grille, I'll insert the "how to" remove the grille here later. Here is my old Laramie grille in place prior to switch out.



Here is a photo of the grille difference on the bottom.



Here they are butted up together




Here is a photo where it hits the bottom portion of the square port on the vehicle



This is the square port that your 12 grille plugs into at the bottom




By the way, when you're in there clean out all the bugs and stuff - I use a nice soft brush and go lightly, in the end it was nice like brand new



Oh, and by the way, if you ever wondered where the temprature in your vehicle comes from - it's on the drivers side behind the grille and a few other things and it looks like this.


Here is where I had to cut a portion of the square port on the vehicle side square lower grille receiver (just a note, there is also a mid-point mount for the grille but it is not needed when you install on the 2012 if you fabricate a good sturdy bottom mount like I did. Just wanted to point that out).




This is an all in one photo because I can't get the photos like due to technical difficulties mentioned above. Anyway, you can see where I had to remove part of the square receiver end and you can also see where my new metal plate was installed to receive the new grille. The new grille has small round plastic fittings like youl would see on an old door panel system. I'll try to get better photos when I can get photobucket to work better



Here is the grille installed and the bracket I fabricated holds it tight as can be! If you get one of these grilles you will totally see how to do your fabrication - it is easier to cut the grille to work for you, but I'm against that because I'd rather make it where both grilles are perfect and I've only grinded a little bit of some plastic behind the grille that no one can ever see.



http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...psdcc1e9e6.jpg

And going back, here is a photo showing the bracket with a hole and that is where the lower grille plug mount will insert

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...psd16b8fbe.jpg










[QUOTE=MQQSE]Here is the finished product of the new grille - it's in there very tight and fits like a glove!!


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Awesome writeup, Moose!!! I really appreciate it.

I assume the four screws at the top line up the same as before? It's just the two hooks at the bottom.

Is your gasket on your hood your your grille on your truck? My truck has it on the 2010 GRILLE!!!!! It's stuck there with the 3M adhesive from the factory. I've seen others where the gasket is on the hood.

Your install confirms that I'm really going to like the honeycomb Laramie 2013 grille for sure. Looks great!

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What does one of those grilles go for?
I also have seen the weather strip on the hood (mine) and on the grill (my friend).

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The lowest price I've seen for the 2013 Laramie Grille is around $330 before shipping.

You gotta want it.

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Just got confirmation that the grille is on the way! Went out fedex 2 day air today.

Can I take a second to say something nice about Steve White Motors Parts? This was a deal where they price matched for me and with shipping came in below their original quote. When they went to place the special order, their normal mopar warehouse didn't have any because it was so new. They then ordered from another warehouse and it came in to the dealer today. To be sure I had to install this weekend, they shipped out 2 day air. I'm within 2-3 day service via fedex ground / home delivery. This thing weighs 16 lbs and according to FedEx tracking the dimensions are 55x18x11 in. So they paid a pretty good penny to be sure I'd have it for the weekend and I didn't even ask them to.

I appreciate it when someone goes to extra effort on my behalf -- especially when I didn't even ask. I think it's worth mentioning.

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Awesome writeup, Moose!!! I really appreciate it.

I assume the four screws at the top line up the same as before? It's just the two hooks at the bottom.

Is your gasket on your hood your your grille on your truck? My truck has it on the 2010 GRILLE!!!!! It's stuck there with the 3M adhesive from the factory. I've seen others where the gasket is on the hood.

Your install confirms that I'm really going to like the honeycomb Laramie 2013 grille for sure. Looks great!

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Guzz, the four screws do line up at the top; I had another write up that explained that but forgot to put that in this one - I'll go back and put that in the write up.

Gasget? My hood seals everything perfect but there is no gasget on it. It's just the way the felt is shapped and it is real tight fit.

I really think the huneycomb grille looks the best with the projector lights and as you know I had to ship mine back because of issues. I'll be getting them back pretty soon. I can't wait because this will really tie in my truck and now all I'll need is that 4" lift! I've got some other things up my sleeve as well

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Guzz, the four screws do line up at the top; I had another write up that explained that but forgot to put that in this one - I'll go back and put that in the write up.

Gasget? My hood seals everything perfect but there is no gasget on it. It's just the way the felt is shapped and it is real tight fit.

I really think the huneycomb grille looks the best with the projector lights and as you know I had to ship mine back because of issues. I'll be getting them back pretty soon. I can't wait because this will really tie in my truck and now all I'll need is that 4" lift! I've got some other things up my sleeve as well
Sounds great, Moose!

On my 2010, there is a gasket on the grille. But on other / newer trucks, the gasket is on the hood itself. I just bought a 3m gasket for $13 bucks so I'm going to put that up on the hood where it belongs so there won't be an issue going from one grille to another.



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Did you look at Geno's Garage "Quick Release Grill Kit"? I wonder if that would have worked on both grills?

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Did you look at Geno's Garage "Quick Release Grill Kit"? I wonder if that would have worked on both grills?

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The focus of that kit is mainly on the top end of the grille. The kit should work with both grilles as they're the same on the top end.

http://www.genosgarage.com/installat...ckGrillKit.pdf

The mods to the lower connections are still necessary in either case.

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Looking at Geno's instructions I don't see how the grill is secured at the bottom with the metal clips removed? If this is somehow possible, than you shouldn't have to trim the plastic on the truck? IDK, I guess you would have to just do it to know for sure how it's going to work.

Since I got a Longhorn, I'm waiting 2013 Longhorn grill. Anyway the 2013 grill on your rig really freshens up the look.


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Looking at Geno's instructions I don't see how the grill is secured at the bottom with the metal clips removed? If this is somehow possible, than you shouldn't have to trim the plastic on the truck? IDK, I guess you would have to just do it to know for sure how it's going to work.

Since I got a Longhorn, I'm waiting 2013 Longhorn grill. Anyway the 2013 grill on your rig really freshens up the look.


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I saw that too.

I might be wrong but my understanding is the metal clips LOCK the hooks. The hooks are still there. I think removing the metal clips makes it easier to quick-release the grille after you've undone the top part. But the hooks are still there down below.

If the hooks themselves were removed, the bottom of the grille would be loose!

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I installed the Geno's Quick Release Grill kit when I did my engine mods. I drilled out the holes on top and removed the metal clips on the bottom. My grill does not budge. It is in there tight and comes out in a jiffy. Worth the money...a well built kit. I also put on the condenser guard. Just a little extra protection for the little things.

OP...nice write-up.
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