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post #25 of 40 (permalink) Old 03-20-2019, 11:20 AM
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I got the Wix head from Amazon, its fine. It did have sharp cut threads. I wire brushed then used a wet nylon scrunge pad and polished them smooth so you can run your fingers over the threads and not get cut. I could see how people would not like that. Cat 1R0760 screws on and off perfectly, no chance of getting stuck.
Some reviews on Amazon said the center thread was cut crooked, I looked carefully and don't see it on mine. But there is some play in the filter and you can force it to look crooked if you try, and I mean like hold it up to the light about 2 inches away from your eyes and wiggle the filter. See some people were saying the filter when screwed on, did not touch evenly on the gasket and it leaked due to threads misalignment. I just dont see that, its no different than any other filter going on.

I did stack 2 green orings I had from some AC work I did long ago onto the center thread to seal the filter.

I may put it on next week.
First I need to finish installing the DD head bolted to the frame.
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Here is my set up. Not sure what it is. Lol
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I finished the primary fuel filter using the DD fuel base. Works well, no leaks.
I prefilled the filter.
To seal the brass fittings, I put on some 'Seal-All'. I am found of sealers not teflon tape. The tape typically breaks into bits that can get into the fuel system. Some prior guy had used teflon tape on this filter base and I dug it all out of the threads using a tiny pick.

I cut the SS 3/8 tubing with my jigsaw. And removed a section of tubing to allow the rubber hose to fit better.
The hose is Marine A1 fuel hose with a nylon liner. Its real good and tough long lasting hose.
Then filed edges smooth, deburred inside. I barely was able to put a bumped out nubbing on the tubing end using a double flare tool from AZ, actually that tool is awful. I double clamped with special clamps, all SS, no band slots, they are real good price from Amazon.
I could raise the head another inch. I could cut a flat plate, tap holes for the DD filter base, drill 2 holes for the frame bolts, and mount to frame using same bolts now holding filter base onto the frame. Not really worth the effort now. If I switch to a WS filter, I might do that to help with ground clearance.



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Where is the water separator with this kind of set up?

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Where is the water separator with this kind of set up?
Right now it's still in the OEM filter housing which I am keeping. A water separating filter, well, all seperate FREE water, but not all have a convenient drain on the bottom. But not all water separating filters separate emulsified water, I think. To drain with no drain, you have to unscrew and dump the filter out.

I could put a WS draining filter in this DD filter base, maybe next time it gets changed.
Perhaps a P558010 which does emulsified water, or DD 23512317, Baldwin BF5813, Luber Finer LF8010, Donaldson P553212 - emulsified yes, Purolator F60025, WIX WF10045,33123,33704,33646, WF10014, 33418. There are lots more choices to use for that WS functioning.

When I was looking up part numbers, the P558010 mentioned emulsified water removal at 96%. But I wonder about the others, they may just be doing free water, not emulsified?

Fram PCS5060G, says it is a coalescing filter, so I suppose does emulsified water, so maybe if they have drains they are removing emulsified water, it seems dumb to have a drain and not do emulsified water, and I don't know if coalescing and removing emulsified are the same thing, but I would think so.

Filters you have to contact the tech help if it is not mentioned in the documentation.
The stock filter can do emulsified, no reason to take it out.
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I made my bracket for the Cat filter right before the pump.
I used 1/8 aluminum sheet metal and doubled it up, actually glued together and of course it will be thru bolted too. Then made a angle support bracket to add support against vibration cracking the metal at the bend. The whole bracket mounts on the head at the front of the block on the 3 holes. I am using the wix filter base with the steel thread for the cat filter. There is enough room, I could use the newer longer cat filter, the UHE Cat 416-1225 at 10.5" length.

The UHE 319-0844 is the same length as the 1r0750
Both those two filters are the newer ultra high efficiency design, so I wont be buying anymore 1r0750's, its like yesterday's tech.

In a few weeks hope to have it done.
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That bracket looks like you ordered it from a custom filter company. Super nice craftsmanship. That is beautiful. How much would you charge to make another one of those? I have an 03 3500 Cummins and I can't find a bracket where I can run the newer cat filters like you were talking about. Right now I only have stock filtration. I just replaced all 6 of my injectors, feed tubes, fuel lines, fuel filter, oil, etc. I have 200K miles on the truck and I don't even want to start it without better filtration. I used all 100% brand new Bosch parts. No remains here. Man those things are expensive!!! I want the best filtration possible before I start her again for the 1st time and put her back in service. What you have done Is perfect. I'd love to buy one of those brackets. If you can't do it, I completely understand. Either way, it's nice to see people thinking outside the box, and making what they want to use happen! Message me if you can or will do the bracket for me. Either way, best of luck and would you post some pics of the final results? Thanks.
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geminijeff76....there's all sorts of way to get this done. Baldwin 7977 in the OEM canister does a great job removing water and filtering to 5 micron.....Vulcan fuel systems sells a very nice set up that fits under your intake horn...you can get all sorts of 2 and 3 micron filters to fit that base....I run the Vulcan system with a Donaldson 551313. That's 3 micron absolute. I believe there are a number of 2 micron filters that you can. Many people use the same set up with very good results. No need to overthink this. Vulcan and GDP are both equally good set ups. Personally I like my filters under the hood rather than hanging off the frame. Most important is that you get it done .....the quicker the better.

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That bracket looks like you ordered it from a custom filter company. Super nice craftsmanship. That is beautiful. How much would you charge to make another one of those? I have an 03 3500 Cummins and I can't find a bracket where I can run the newer cat filters like you were talking about. Right now I only have stock filtration. I just replaced all 6 of my injectors, feed tubes, fuel lines, fuel filter, oil, etc. I have 200K miles on the truck and I don't even want to start it without better filtration. I used all 100% brand new Bosch parts. No remains here. Man those things are expensive!!! I want the best filtration possible before I start her again for the 1st time and put her back in service. What you have done Is perfect. I'd love to buy one of those brackets. If you can't do it, I completely understand. Either way, it's nice to see people thinking outside the box, and making what they want to use happen! Message me if you can or will do the bracket for me. Either way, best of luck and would you post some pics of the final results? Thanks.
Definitely will post pics of the final. This bracket measures 5.25" along the base that bolts to the head, width is 2.75". The upright section measures 6.5" in length, width is 3 7/8". The length of the support piece is 9", 1.25" width.

It holds the filter head up high enough to mount the longer better UHE filter, which people should be using instead of the 1R0750 0r 1R0749 which is the advanced filter older technology. it places the filter head at the same height as the air horn.

A metal shop could cut and bend this for you. Then you could drill the holes. I actually choose the 1/8 aluminum as it can easily be bent by me and doubled it up for more strength.

I did find out if your going to use the longer 4161225 Cat, the filter has to run at a slight angle on my bracket to be able to clear to clear the CP3 pump. Worth it as that filter has builtin water separator and the better filtration. Otherwise to run the longer filter, needs a wide spacer, maybe and inch, or make bottom bracket longer to clear the cp3 pump. It also comes closer to the power steering reservoir with a spacer, so angling it a little solves both issues with the long filter.


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Has anybody ever used this kit? I was told by Dr. Performance this is all I need.
I was going to use the FASS system, but he told me I would over fueling my injectors just get this kit.

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