II reman ,or Bosch reman updated puck and collar - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum
3rd Gen. Powertrain Discussion of components that are directly involved in the power production and all that is needed to get and keep the truck moving . Engine , Transmission Ect...NO ADVERTISING

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-15-2014, 10:51 PM Thread Starter
Cummins Fanatic
 
2000cuminspower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Craig, Colorado
Posts: 187
Thanks: 4
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
II reman ,or Bosch reman updated puck and collar

I am sending my injectors to DAP to get tested because I had a hard start And now it won't start at all. (P1222) Builds 1300 psi cranking ! Which would you guys recommend. Bosch reman updated injectors are 1940. II are 1600 and some change. I'm thinking the genuine Bosch. Thanks


2006 3500 6 speed 5.9 Valair Dual disc, 5" with donaldson muffler! Smarty JR.
2000cuminspower is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-15-2014, 11:07 PM
Diesel Head
 
NeMachinist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Hallam Nebraska
Posts: 1,525
Thanks: 257
Thanked 242 Times in 208 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
I went Bosch when I did mine 10K ago. Flawless performance. I chose the +50's and couldn't be happier.


Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App

2003 SO 200k. Bosch +50s. Smarty s06. Rebuilt 47re,billet parts &servos, Goerend triple.Duel fuel filters.Added oem limited slip. HE351. 285duratracs.120v 1200w plug in bed. In-tank conversion.
NeMachinist is offline  
post #3 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-15-2014, 11:20 PM Thread Starter
Cummins Fanatic
 
2000cuminspower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Craig, Colorado
Posts: 187
Thanks: 4
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Ive had bad experience with II. Thinking Bosch Heard they are basically NEW if they are straight from bosch?

2006 3500 6 speed 5.9 Valair Dual disc, 5" with donaldson muffler! Smarty JR.
2000cuminspower is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-15-2014, 11:27 PM
Diesel Head

 
waywardtravel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Panama
Posts: 7,068
Thanks: 364
Thanked 933 Times in 779 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Doesn't DAP have NEW injectors for your truck?

It's worth it.

04.5,QCSB, Goerend full billet, 4:10's, MPI 63/475,Engineered diesel 63, Exergy 40%'s,Dual CP3's, gauges, Airdog 2 165, S-06 TNT R and Gordon's UDC,edge JWA CTS, Top Gun Customz 3 1/2", Carli BJ's, BIG steering box, 5100's, Helo 791's with 35's.


2016 QCSB BONE STOCK as of yesterday.
waywardtravel is offline  
post #5 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-15-2014, 11:35 PM
Diesel Head
 
NeMachinist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Hallam Nebraska
Posts: 1,525
Thanks: 257
Thanked 242 Times in 208 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
Ya I think the "new" Bosch is the closest thing u can get to new injectors...there is some lengthy threads on here about that, and just what "new" means. I made my choice based on the Bosch injectors having the least (almost none) bad reports on this forum. On all the remans, one guy would hav great luck with some particular company, there wood be another guy sayn that those r the biggest pieces of +^~<. With the Bosch they wood just say they were pricy, but no bad ones or rough idling or smoking and that sorta thing.


Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App

2003 SO 200k. Bosch +50s. Smarty s06. Rebuilt 47re,billet parts &servos, Goerend triple.Duel fuel filters.Added oem limited slip. HE351. 285duratracs.120v 1200w plug in bed. In-tank conversion.
NeMachinist is offline  
post #6 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-15-2014, 11:42 PM Thread Starter
Cummins Fanatic
 
2000cuminspower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Craig, Colorado
Posts: 187
Thanks: 4
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Dodge Cummins 5.9L Common Rail Injector 2004.5-2007 --Genuine Bosch. I'm lookin at these. Gonna talk to jkidd hopefully tomorrow see if they are NEW. Or new reman by Bosch.

2006 3500 6 speed 5.9 Valair Dual disc, 5" with donaldson muffler! Smarty JR.
2000cuminspower is offline  
post #7 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-15-2014, 11:50 PM
Diesel Head

 
waywardtravel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Panama
Posts: 7,068
Thanks: 364
Thanked 933 Times in 779 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Correction.
New Bosch injectors are New Bosch injectors. They have a part number that signifies new.
Re-man Bosch injectors are re-mans.

At a point in time when you bought re-man Bosch injectors you would get the new ones because of low re-man supply.

Bosch motorsports injectors with the newer body style but the older spray pattern are indeed New injectors. That is strait from Bosch Motorsports to me in email.

I know DAP had a supply of NEW Bosch injectors in both spray patterns.

Outside of new I personally would use exergy just from reading and watching countless re-man failures. They are very good at building what they build. Harvey (I believe)was with Bosch and helped develop these injectors from the beginning.

Through due diligence on here you can find the differences easily.

Re-mans all have a higher failure rate vs new.
Bosch re-mans are probably the best unless you consider Exergy to be a re-man when they build you a new injector from all new parts.
That brings up BBI who builds new injectors from new part and also had advertised NEW Bosch injectors for your truck.

Also the pintle to nozzle clearance is about 1 micron or 1/25 of a human hair so many injectors re-man and new get botched during install by a careless unskilled installer.

If DAP doesn't have them call BBI direct. I didn't see them on the website but they had them. For a time BBI wasn't or doesn't charge a core because they are 100% new injectors. Weigh in the core charges when shopping.

04.5,QCSB, Goerend full billet, 4:10's, MPI 63/475,Engineered diesel 63, Exergy 40%'s,Dual CP3's, gauges, Airdog 2 165, S-06 TNT R and Gordon's UDC,edge JWA CTS, Top Gun Customz 3 1/2", Carli BJ's, BIG steering box, 5100's, Helo 791's with 35's.


2016 QCSB BONE STOCK as of yesterday.

Last edited by waywardtravel; 06-16-2014 at 11:11 AM.
waywardtravel is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to waywardtravel For This Useful Post:
BrianAtSmarty (06-16-2014)
post #8 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-16-2014, 12:06 AM
Diesel Head

 
waywardtravel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Panama
Posts: 7,068
Thanks: 364
Thanked 933 Times in 779 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Here is DAP's advertised price on NEW injectors. The link says 03-04 but the page is different. Clear it with them if your ordering them.
Dodge Cummins 5.9L Common Rail Injector 2003-2004, , HP, Mopar bosch motor sports motorsports BMS
$150.00 core each.

04.5,QCSB, Goerend full billet, 4:10's, MPI 63/475,Engineered diesel 63, Exergy 40%'s,Dual CP3's, gauges, Airdog 2 165, S-06 TNT R and Gordon's UDC,edge JWA CTS, Top Gun Customz 3 1/2", Carli BJ's, BIG steering box, 5100's, Helo 791's with 35's.


2016 QCSB BONE STOCK as of yesterday.
waywardtravel is offline  
post #9 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-16-2014, 12:22 AM Thread Starter
Cummins Fanatic
 
2000cuminspower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Craig, Colorado
Posts: 187
Thanks: 4
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Looks like exergy E01 20201 are about the same price as the one that I posted. Those good or which ones from exergy were you talking about. The e02 20201? Page 7. http://www.exergyperformance.com/doc...y_products.pdf

2006 3500 6 speed 5.9 Valair Dual disc, 5" with donaldson muffler! Smarty JR.
2000cuminspower is offline  
post #10 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-16-2014, 10:22 AM
Diesel Head

 
waywardtravel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Panama
Posts: 7,068
Thanks: 364
Thanked 933 Times in 779 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
I'm stressing NEW not re-man.
That number is a re-man.
You should call these companies direct. The websites are not always up to date.

04.5,QCSB, Goerend full billet, 4:10's, MPI 63/475,Engineered diesel 63, Exergy 40%'s,Dual CP3's, gauges, Airdog 2 165, S-06 TNT R and Gordon's UDC,edge JWA CTS, Top Gun Customz 3 1/2", Carli BJ's, BIG steering box, 5100's, Helo 791's with 35's.


2016 QCSB BONE STOCK as of yesterday.

Last edited by waywardtravel; 06-16-2014 at 10:24 AM.
waywardtravel is offline  
post #11 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-16-2014, 10:25 AM Thread Starter
Cummins Fanatic
 
2000cuminspower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Craig, Colorado
Posts: 187
Thanks: 4
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Ok just ordered the NEW Bosch from exergy. Part number E02 20201. And NEW crosover tubes.

2006 3500 6 speed 5.9 Valair Dual disc, 5" with donaldson muffler! Smarty JR.
2000cuminspower is offline  
post #12 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-16-2014, 10:32 AM Thread Starter
Cummins Fanatic
 
2000cuminspower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Craig, Colorado
Posts: 187
Thanks: 4
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
E01 are the reman. E02 are the new. I asked him and made sure I told him I want new not reman. He said the new is e02. The reman is e01

2006 3500 6 speed 5.9 Valair Dual disc, 5" with donaldson muffler! Smarty JR.
2000cuminspower is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Closed Thread

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome