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post #253 of 326 (permalink) Old 10-07-2019, 12:50 PM
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https://www.ultimatepowersteering.co...ring-pump-kit/

$1400 and 7-80 amp draw.

There’s a point of diminishing returns and I think power steering is a few miles over that line.



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I was thinking more along the lines of keeping the OEM pump, but turning the pulley with an electric DC motor. But, that's interesting non the less. Those Aussies...

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I was considering this for a long time now since mine is 16 years old.https://www.dieselpowerproducts.com/...e-cummins.aspx Kinda pricey?

I wonder if that electric pump... https://www.ultimatepowersteering.co...ring-pump-kit/ has enough flow/power to work on our trucks??? That would sure make the belt a lot shorter and give it more wrap on the crank.

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Still doing testing on my PWM, I noticed yesterday after shutting off I waited to see how long the "after run" circuit would power the pump and fans, and just like it says in the Manual it shuts off when the coolant temps reach 175*...Nice. So far everything is working as advertised.

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New belt routing without PS pulley, and with PS pulley.
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I think it would be great but if the factory pump flows around 3-4 gpm @ 1500 psi then it will take between 2.6-3.5 hp motor.

A 12v dc motor rated at 3hp is 2200 watts!


From what I can find the hydroboost seems to requires around 2-3gpm.


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That link you posted about the Ultimate Power Steering elec pump got me thinking, since I want to upgrade to the 08+ pump anyway. That's a lot of $$$ though!

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I got a used 08-9 pump on ebay for $80.00 same one they're selling @ DPP for $819.00

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I think it would be great but if the factory pump flows around 3-4 gpm @ 1500 psi then it will take between 2.6-3.5 hp motor.

A 12v dc motor rated at 3hp is 2200 watts!


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I found some Volvo electric PS pumps for $100- $160... Funny thing is the motor is made by Ford! lol But with a ram assist it might be a good deal for less than 1/2 of that ultimate ZF pump which is just a standard 4th/5th gen pump.

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an electric setup would be sweet, biggest concern i would have would be if the system fails, how do the brakes react?

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an electric setup would be sweet, biggest concern i would have would be if the system fails, how do the brakes react?
True, it would be the same as if you spit the belt off, which happened to me on the Hwy, no steering, and no brakes! What's more likely to happen, water pump spitting the belt, or electric motor quitting? I have no idea.

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I also thought an electric PS pump would be a great theft deterrent. A thief can't go far without steering or brakes. Also, if the engine stalls or dies for what ever reason you can still steer, and stop with the elec pump on it's own circuit and a hidden switch.

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