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How To: 4th Gen seats in your 3rd gen (pics)



First you're going to need to acquire seats AND center console from a 2010+ Ram 1500/2500/3500. You cannot use the 3rd gen console, the brackets are totally different. I paid $500 for my cloth set from an '11 1500. It took me a few weeks to find them, but just keep calling every wrecker in town and you will find them eventually.



Start by removing the seats. M15 in the front, M18 in the rear. I suggest using a breaker bar to get them started, and move onto an impact to get them the rest of the way out. I feel sorry for you if you've gotta use a rachet to get them out... They're tough.

A couple suggestions when removing the seats:

- You CAN take the whole front seat set out in one piece, but I do not suggest it.
- After all the seats are unbolted, unplug all the wiring and lean them back onto the rear seats. From here, you can unbolt the center console and remove all the pieces individually.
- Be VERY careful when installing and removing the seats from the cab. The brackets on the outside of the seats are easy to forget, and will scratch the heck out of your truck.



There is some wiring involved. I'm not going to get too far into how to wire it up, because wiring is different from truck to truck. However, it's very simple. You simply need to supply +12v to the seats, ignition-switched +12v to the cigarette lighter in the center console and signal to the seatbelt indicator. On the newer style seats, the seatbelt indicator may use two wires. One will go to the trucks indicator wire, and the other can be grounded.



Once you've wrestled the new seats into the truck, you're going to have to make one slight modification to get them to fit properly. This bracket here was hitting my cup holder center console, so I just rotated it out of the way.



You'll need to trim a small tab off this bracket to rotate it.

The center console bracket setup is a bit different than the 3rd gens. The center console bolts onto the passenger seat bracket, and then would bolt into the floor on a 2010+ truck. Since we don't have holes in our floors there, it'll just have to sit on the bracket and be bolted down with the passenger seat. I found that it made no difference what-so-ever, the center console does not move or sit uneven.



Bolt the seats down, plug them in and enjoy. The difference between the old seats and these is unreal. You can actually drive the truck without your butt falling asleep after 30 minutes! Your back won't be out of place after an hour!

I've got some Wet Okole seat covers on the way, that way they'll match the rest of my interior. I wish I had waited to order the seat covers, these 4th gen seats actually look pretty good in the truck, and would probably match the truck if I swapped the rear seats too.

Feel free to reply or PM if you need any help with your swap.


-Kyle

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Finally got my Wet Okoles installed:



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This is a really good wrote up. Thanks for taking the time to put it together.

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Do you happen to know if the 1500 and 2500 seats have any differences or if they are the same?

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Do you happen to know if the 1500 and 2500 seats have any differences or if they are the same?
2010+ seats are the same through all the models AFAIK. I got mine out of a 1500.

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2010+ seats are the same through all the models AFAIK. I got mine out of a 1500.
Gotcha. I think this is a project I definitely want to look into doing. Thanks again for the info.

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Nice write up man! just ordered mine, front and back seat, sure hope the back seat will work tho.

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The back seat is going to be a little tougher due to the larger cabs. Definitely some seat frame/bracket modifications.

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Yea, i looked at the pics between the 2 close and they look the same size to me but i cant pull a tape on a picture lol, we will see when they show up, i will post up some pics when i get them figured out!

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The back seat is going to be a little tougher due to the larger cabs. Definitely some seat frame/bracket modifications.
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Yea, i looked at the pics between the 2 close and they look the same size to me but i cant pull a tape on a picture lol, we will see when they show up, i will post up some pics when i get them figured out!
The back seat will fit, size wise. However, you will need to modify the brackets. IIRC, they're a bit too long, so you'll have to chop them and drill new holes.

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The back seat will fit, size wise. However, you will need to modify the brackets. IIRC, they're a bit too long, so you'll have to chop them and drill new holes.
Good to hear brother!! cant wait to get them in!!

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