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OEM 6 Bolt Steering Box Differences

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Are there differences between the 6 bolt box that comes with the 2003-2008 Mopar 68170214AA Steering Box Upgrade and a newer 6 bolt box taken from a newer truck?

Are there any particular years to look for?

The reason I ask is because I have a salvage yard near me that has many low mileage newer Ram 2500/3500ís.

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Curious, how much does your salvage yard charge for one of these? If anything the pitman arm and tie rod end would be different.

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OEM 6 Bolt Steering Box Differences

They quoted me $175 for a late model steering gear and matching power steering pump together.

Iíve read the thread by @Gator1 Steering pump upgrade
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about fitting a late model pump for the increased flow and it got me thinking...
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They are different, but think it's just the lines. After picking up the 6 bolt new mopar box, specially after being unhappy with it, I was amazed to find 6 bolt boxes off of 4th gen 2013+ trucks a dime a dozen on ebay for under $250.

Could have done that, a 2013+ pump and all new lines for less than the box I got. Just debatable on how long the used box will last of course.

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I bit the bullet and came home yesterday with a 6-bolt power steering gear out of a 2018 with 22k miles. At the yard I was able to put an 06 4-bolt gear next to it for comparison.

I now have 90 days (return policy) to get everything sorted. I plan on getting a 2011 to 2012 power steering pump as well.

I need to figure out: the hoses, the pitman arm, the larger bearing on the steering brace, and the steering input shaft connection.

The 06 has a splined shaft at the input and the 18 has a double D style. Is there a commonly available adapter to convert the inputs?


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Did you take the opportunity to view the steering shaft? Maybe the lower half will mate to our upper or maybe the whole shaft will interchange.
I was wondering the same thing about the newer boxes. I did the pump change out a couple of years back. I had the same problem with aligning the pulley. The next day I went back to get the bracket off that 2012, and it was all good.

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I did not have an opportunity to look at the fourth gen steering shaft...

The yard I have available to me pulls everything themselves. The steering gear I came home with was on their shelf. That would be great if the two halves were compatible.


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I have one near me that deals with Dodges.
If I have my old shaft, I'll take it down for comparison next weekend.

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I have one near me that deals with Dodges.

If I have my old shaft, I'll take it down for comparison next weekend.


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I just used an 09 lower portion of the steering shaft when I swapped in my 4th gen box. It has the square connection instead of the splines and mates properly to the 3rd gen upper shaft and 4th gen box input.

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I just used an 09 lower portion of the steering shaft when I swapped in my 4th gen box.

Thank you CTD NUT. This is great news.

Would you please share any lessons learned from your 4th gen box swap?

Iím particularly interested in the hoses used and pitman-arm/tie rod type.




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I just used an 09 lower portion of the steering shaft when I swapped in my 4th gen box.

Thank you CTD NUT. This is great news.

Would you please share any lessons learned from your 4th gen box swap?

I’m particularly interested in the hoses used and pitman-arm/tie rod type.




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Need the 4th gen pitman arm for the bigger shaft. If you have a Y style linkage you need a new rod end at the box, if you have T style it just bolts right in.

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