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post #13 of 63 (permalink) Old 08-21-2019, 12:32 PM
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I also treat mine for year-round coverage, Gray bottle for 8 months, white bottle for the 4 Winter months.
Also Walmart 2-stroke year-round.

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R12 in the summer, Webasto in the winter, and cassette tapes all year.
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You don't need any anti-gel if you are buying fuel in the region where those temperatures are normal/expected. Winter fuel is treated for the area.
There are exceptions, but they're rare.
Terrible advice right here. Mine gelled up last winter on a fresh tank, first time in 15 years of running the truck as a daily in "northern" Canada. Root cause? I added a remote fuel filter kit with a finer media which trapped the fine ice/wax particulate which normally passed through the stock filter. So, the finer your filtration is, the more susceptible you are to freeze up.

Also, winter diesel is not treated, it has the same additives that summer diesel has. In colder months refineries optimize production to produce a lighter diesel blend (specific gravity) which has a lower cloud/pour points. It also contains lower BTU's.

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Terrible advice right here. Mine gelled up last winter on a fresh tank, first time in 15 years of running the truck as a daily in "northern" Canada. Root cause? I added a remote fuel filter kit with a finer media which trapped the fine ice/wax particulate which normally passed through the stock filter. So, the finer your filtration is, the more susceptible you are to freeze up.
Was that under the frame and with no fuel heater? I've personally never had or seen that problem with -30* C and mighty Donaldson filtration. Never even seen frame mounted filters do that in -30* C with good ol' Canadian diesel.

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Was that under the frame and with no fuel heater? I've personally never had or seen that problem with -30* C and mighty Donaldson filtration. Never even seen frame mounted filters do that in -30* C with good ol' Canadian diesel.
Under the hood horn mount. Kept the stocker with the heater.

May be fine with just the stock filter element (which we all know is inadequate), but if you add more efficient filtration you should definitely consider low temp additives.

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interesting, I've heard of that for under frame filters with no heater but never for under hood ones.

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Yeah, my underhood has been through some cold Utah nights -20f.
I don't recall ever reading a post about gelling for under hood ones.
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Yeah, my underhood has been through some cold Utah nights -20f.
I don't recall ever reading a post about gelling for under hood ones.
Gets down to -40F here.

No issues once I started using Stanadyne, drove through the night at -40F.

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Yeah, my underhood has been through some cold Utah nights -20f.
I don't recall ever reading a post about gelling for under hood ones.
Gets down to -40F here.

No issues once I started using Stanadyne, drove through the night at -40F.
Ima have to look into stanadyne
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This is harder than I thought it would be hahaha. PS vs Stanadyne additive. The research continues I guess.
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This is harder than I thought it would be hahaha. PS vs Stanadyne additive. The research continues I guess.
There are lots to pick from out there, and I don't think I've heard of one that doesn't work when it comes to prevent gelling.

If you throw how they deal with water, the lubricity and such, into the mix you have plenty to read up on.

Maybe if we start telling people that the brain is an app, they will start using it?

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