It's really the opposite with the Ford 450 pickup. They took a medium duty truck and slapped on a 14k GVW label.
Compared to Ford's 350 dually, which is equally beefy compared to a RAM 3500 dually, the F-450 does have the sharper turning wide front axle and 19.5" rims, along with 12-ply commercial tires that far outlast our 10-ply tires. But the Ford also has much larger brakes, and a significantly stronger rear axle.
You'll notice an F-450 pickup has less payload than an F-350 dually...and the reason is because the base truck weighs more.
Im aware of what ferd offers with 450, yes the frame is heavier, albeit still C channel < hydro formed tube.
I know they run a Dana 130 or 110 rear, older years vs the Dana 80 in the 350. This allows for the deeper 4.3 gears vs the 4.1. They run larger disks on the brakes. And there are probably some things I donít know about.
But again WHY? Itís still a class 3 truck maxed at 14k GVW, so you have more weight to tug around which means worse mpg higher maintenance cost and less payload.
Being the truck weighs more with the same GVWR means it tows less. Period! If these trucks were worn out by 100k or 200k like the old days then Iíd get it but most of these trucks will pull the max combined weight day in day out and still go easy 500k. What was rnoggle at here the last time he posted, 800,000 and counting on a 2011 3500 and the trucks have gotten better since then. And I add, with a 68rfe that was still original just fluid and filter changes that some on here claim to be just junk transmissions.
It would makes sense when/if the class ratings change and that might happen soon as the trucks just keep getting heavier and some ratings just donít make sense anymore. Take a ram 2500 with a diesel and itís a 8500 pounder with a 10k GVWR, just isnít making sense anymore unless because of some other outdated laws and how the truck is tagged/plated. Or some stupid state insurance laws class 2 vs class 3 trucks. A lot of those trucks are running around grossly overloaded because of that arbitrary number.
I donít get it but I dont get brodozers either, I guess I dont have a need to swing my **** anymore.