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post #301 of 352 (permalink) Old 04-20-2019, 01:02 PM Thread Starter
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Nick I havenít seen these in person yet and WVRam thanks for pics - you may want to adjust drivers side up a tick, the step is just a bit lower on the left than the right.


Well these (both @WVram and mine are LHD cut offs meaning the line (from right to left) dips down towards the side of oncoming traffic.



Hereís the frustrating part about projectors. My only gripe. Is if you want them to be perfectly even then the cutoff line will look something like this





If I stand in front of my truck and slowly squat down I want both lines/lights to hit my eyes at the same time. In order to do that then the above is the result Iíll get for cut off lines.



However if I want even (symmetrical) cut off lines like this





Then when I squat down slowly in front of the truck, my driver side hits my eyeball first then after squatting down some more my passenger side then hits my eyes.



Itís a bit of a conundrum because I think it looks dumb when I see a vehicle equipped with HIDís coming towards me and one lamp (usually driver side) is glaring and the other isnít. It almost looks like a cross eyed person. One eye sticking up the other pointing down. In my head I think ďwow BMW/Lexus/whoever cant even aim their headlights correctlyĒ. But I bet if you pointed it against a wall it would be perfectly level like my second example above.



However if I want both lights/lines to hit my eyes at the exact same time then I would have to adjust the cutoff similarly to my first example. Yah others will see an even set of headlights coming their way, but when Iím driving in my lane, the lane to my immediate right will be lit up higher and Iíll be blinding the driver in front of me to my right.



Does any of this make sense to you guys?


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Nick I haven’t seen these in person yet and WVRam thanks for pics - you may want to adjust drivers side up a tick, the step is just a bit lower on the left than the right.


Well these (both @WVram and mine are LHD cut offs meaning the line (from right to left) dips down towards the side of oncoming traffic.



Here’s the frustrating part about projectors. My only gripe. Is if you want them to be perfectly even then the cutoff line will look something like this





If I stand in front of my truck and slowly squat down I want both lines/lights to hit my eyes at the same time. In order to do that then the above is the result I’ll get for cut off lines.



However if I want even (symmetrical) cut off lines like this





Then when I squat down slowly in front of the truck, my driver side hits my eyeball first then after squatting down some more my passenger side then hits my eyes.



It’s a bit of a conundrum because I think it looks dumb when I see a vehicle equipped with HID’s coming towards me and one lamp (usually driver side) is glaring and the other isn’t. It almost looks like a cross eyed person. One eye sticking up the other pointing down. In my head I think “wow BMW/Lexus/whoever cant even aim their headlights correctly”. But I bet if you pointed it against a wall it would be perfectly level like my second example above.



However if I want both lights/lines to hit my eyes at the exact same time then I would have to adjust the cutoff similarly to my first example. Yah others will see an even set of headlights coming their way, but when I’m driving in my lane, the lane to my immediate right will be lit up higher and I’ll be blinding the driver in front of me to my right.



Does any of this make sense to you guys?
The factory HIDs on our VW come aimed like your first example. They appear aimed properly when viewed from the front and it doesnt seem to blind people on the right. The auto-levelling probably helps with that. If it wasn’t for the dip on the drivers side not illuminating the ditch I would never need high beams in our VW.

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The factory HIDs on our VW come aimed like your first example. They appear aimed properly when viewed from the front and it doesnt seem to blind people on the right. The auto-levelling probably helps with that. If it wasnít for the dip on the drivers side not illuminating the ditch I would never need high beams in our VW.
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By the amount of adjustment required, It looks as though the right light assembly (passenger) isnít sitting in the right position on the body mounts. It doesnít take but a small bit to make a difference.
Just a thought.
I'm not even going to worry about the right side yet. If it wants to put the cutout in a non horizontal fashion, so be it. For now.
That side has a much better reveal against the body than the driver's side, by the way.

Took the left one out and tried adjusting it "on the bench", thought the adjuster started working and reinstalled it. Nope.

Took it out again, and completely disregarded the "three turns max" stickers. After all, what did I have to lose at this point?
Kept turning until a screwdriver wouldn't work anymore, and switched to an 8 mm socket.
At one point it went "click" somewhere inside. Uh, oh, now I really screwed it up, I thought.

Well, it looks like 10-20 turns made something start to function in the adjustment mechanism.

I'm writing this while still in a good mood, before going back out and reinstalling that light, again, to find out if it'll work now.

Maybe if we start telling people that the brain is an app, they will start using it?

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Well these (both @WVram and mine are LHD cut offs meaning the line (from right to left) dips down towards the side of oncoming traffic.



Hereís the frustrating part about projectors. My only gripe. Is if you want them to be perfectly even then the cutoff line will look something like this





If I stand in front of my truck and slowly squat down I want both lines/lights to hit my eyes at the same time. In order to do that then the above is the result Iíll get for cut off lines.



However if I want even (symmetrical) cut off lines like this





Then when I squat down slowly in front of the truck, my driver side hits my eyeball first then after squatting down some more my passenger side then hits my eyes.



Itís a bit of a conundrum because I think it looks dumb when I see a vehicle equipped with HIDís coming towards me and one lamp (usually driver side) is glaring and the other isnít. It almost looks like a cross eyed person. One eye sticking up the other pointing down. In my head I think ďwow BMW/Lexus/whoever cant even aim their headlights correctlyĒ. But I bet if you pointed it against a wall it would be perfectly level like my second example above.



However if I want both lights/lines to hit my eyes at the exact same time then I would have to adjust the cutoff similarly to my first example. Yah others will see an even set of headlights coming their way, but when Iím driving in my lane, the lane to my immediate right will be lit up higher and Iíll be blinding the driver in front of me to my right.



Does any of this make sense to you guys?
The second pic is the correct way to adjust projectors. In this situation, both projectors are at exactly the same height. The cutoff shield is in the same spot on both projectors, so, in your second pic, if there was a way to leave the headlights in place and swap the projectors, the cutoff line would remain exactly the same. The main issue with the first pic is, like you said in your last paragraph- if youíre in the far left lane on an expressway, and you have a car ahead of you in the center or right lane, youíll be blinding them in their driver side and interior rear view mirrors. When properly adjusted, at 25í, the bottom line of both projectors should be 2Ē lower than the height from the ground to center of the projector at the truck.
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I’d be sending that to TRS and demanding a replacement set. Your actual projector rotation is completely off on the right side and there is no way to fix it without opening up the headlight (vertical or horizontal adjustment will not fix rotation issues)

For the price they cost I would not be happy with any sort of rotation issues on the output.

And to the guys asking about the steps - they should be aligned and not looking like a step stone (top of left side lines up with bottom of right side)

Even if it’s more cost in the long run I’ve seen all I need to see - I’m going with OEM projectors and doing a retrofit on them

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Iíd be sending that to TRS and demanding a replacement set. Your actual projector rotation is completely off on the right side and there is no way to fix it without opening up the headlight (vertical or horizontal adjustment will not fix rotation issues)
Well, I think it's time to give up. Spent hours on trying to make the up/down adjustment work, and have been able to make it work, sort of, when the light isn't installed, twice.
But as soon as it's reinstalled, there's no reaction whatsoever from the adjustment screw.

It's back to Plan A, which was to make a grille guard of sorts and mount two auxiliary light housings, then put JW Speaker 7-inch rounds in them. Or use the Hella H4s that are already in there, which is what I ran on my '10 2500 to see where I was going.
But that's not going to happen before 2AM Tuesday morning.

There's probably no point in sending these lights back. It's obvious that the adjustment screw on the left one has been turned...a lot, and more than three turns.
There's no way they'll miss that, so that won't fly.

Anybody want to buy a slightly skewed right side headlight? At least the adjustments work on that one.

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Well, I think it's time to give up. Spent hours on trying to make the up/down adjustment work, and have been able to make it work, sort of, when the light isn't installed, twice.
But as soon as it's reinstalled, there's no reaction whatsoever from the adjustment screw.

It's back to Plan A, which was to make a grille guard of sorts and mount two auxiliary light housings, then put JW Speaker 7-inch rounds in them. Or use the Hella H4s that are already in there, which is what I ran on my '10 2500 to see where I was going.
But that's not going to happen before 2AM Tuesday morning.

There's probably no point in sending these lights back. It's obvious that the adjustment screw on the left one has been turned...a lot, and more than three turns.
There's no way they'll miss that, so that won't fly.

Anybody want to buy a slightly skewed right side headlight? At least the adjustments work on that one.
Shock and disbelief.

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Shock and disbelief.
Also known as "feces occurs". Just wish I didn't get so much of it.

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Shock and disbelief.<img src="https://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/images/CumminsForum_2016/smilies/tango_face_sad.png" border="0" alt="" title="Frown" class="inlineimg" />
Also known "feces occurs". Just wish I didn't get so much of it.
I’ve ran out of patience trying to sort out aftermarket lighting.
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I'm not even going to worry about the right side yet. If it wants to put the cutout in a non horizontal fashion, so be it. For now.

That side has a much better reveal against the body than the driver's side, by the way.



Took the left one out and tried adjusting it "on the bench", thought the adjuster started working and reinstalled it. Nope.



Took it out again, and completely disregarded the "three turns max" stickers. After all, what did I have to lose at this point?

Kept turning until a screwdriver wouldn't work anymore, and switched to an 8 mm socket.

At one point it went "click" somewhere inside. Uh, oh, now I really screwed it up, I thought.



Well, it looks like 10-20 turns made something start to function in the adjustment mechanism.



I'm writing this while still in a good mood, before going back out and reinstalling that light, again, to find out if it'll work now.


Jimmy N, did you ever get it to adjust. My left took at least 20+ turns, and right about 10. Like yours on the left, first 10+ at least turns before I saw anything start to move. But did it all with screwdriver.
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Jimmy N, did you ever get it to adjust. My left took at least 20+ turns, and right about 10. Like yours on the left, first 10+ at least turns before I saw anything start to move. But did it all with screwdriver.
Good luck
Funny that you mention that. One of the things on the list today was to remove those headlights.
While the left one was still plugged in, I figured (against better knowledge) to give it one more try.

Sure enough, got that faint "click" from in there again, after much more turning both ways, and now it would adjust up somewhat well.

Until today, every time it's gotten up a bit it went right back down as soon as the light was reinstalled. While encouraged, I wondered how well the adjustment would hold if hitting a bump on the upcoming 1,600-mile trip.
So I lightly hit the headlight...and it went right back down.

Today I was tempted to use a cordless drill. I can only imagine doing it with a screwdriver, with the light installed. You have patience!

You win some and you lose some. I lost this one, and will have to make the trip with the crappy stock headlights.

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