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Ca residents only, 3500 SRW/DRW declaration of GVW

So here it is, yet another GVWR thread about modern day 3500's. My SRW has a GVWR that's well over the 11,499 lb rating. This means that all DRW's are in the same boat.

I'm not for hire, I don't haul for profit et cetera. Yet the vehicle I drive has a GVWR over 11,499 which means that by law, I have to declare a weight. I bought my truck new out of state and one of the DMV requirements was to have a weight cert. If a remember correctly, it tipped the scales at about 7,800 lbs unladen. Nonetheless, the door sticker shows GVWR 12,340 lbs which means i'm over the 11,499 lb benchmark and I supposed to stop at DOT weigh points; despite signs reading NO PICKUPS.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/co...=AJPERES&CVID=


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The way I read it that form is for commercial trucking. But then again I don't live there so have no clue on the registration process out there.

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So here it is, yet another GVWR thread about modern day 3500's. My SRW has a GVWR that's well over the 11,499 lb rating. This means that all DRW's are in the same boat.

I'm not for hire, I don't haul for profit et cetera. Yet the vehicle I drive has a GVWR over 11,499 which means that by law, I have to declare a weight. I bought my truck new out of state and one of the DMV requirements was to have a weight cert. If a remember correctly, it tipped the scales at about 7,800 lbs unladen. Nonetheless, the door sticker shows GVWR 12,340 lbs which means i'm over the 11,499 lb benchmark and I supposed to stop at DOT weigh points; despite signs reading NO PICKUPS.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/co...=AJPERES&CVID=


You only have to stop if you use the truck for commercial purposes or, you have a modified bed.
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I’m pulling a 50ft wedge car trailer and have dot #s on my truck and I still don’t stop at ca scales. Says no pick ups and I still have the factory bed so I’m considered a pick up. Never had an issue
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"Pickup trucks with no body type modifications (e.g., utility bed added, stake, etc.) and an unladen weight under 8,001 and a GVWR of 11,499 and under are excluded."

This is what baffles me. Under 8,001 unladen AND GVWR under 11,499. All 3500's, SRW and DRW are over 11,499

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"No pickups" at the CHP scales is a black and white regulatory sign, you must obey it, do not enter the scales.
You have to declare weight to DMV when you register because you will be charged weight fees up the kazoo.

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"Pickup trucks with no body type modifications (e.g., utility bed added, stake, etc.) and an unladen weight under 8,001 and a GVWR of 11,499 and under are excluded."

This is what baffles me. Under 8,001 unladen AND GVWR under 11,499. All 3500's, SRW and DRW are over 11,499


The unladen weight is where we fall in.

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The unladen weight is where we fall in.
We are under the unladen weight, but not the GVWR. Those two go hand in hand according to the law. If you remember last generation trucks, the GVWR was under the 11,499lbs. With Ferd's, you can specifically order trucks with lowered GVWR.

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We are under the unladen weight, but not the GVWR. Those two go hand in hand according to the law. If you remember last generation trucks, the GVWR was under the 11,499lbs. With Ferd's, you can specifically order trucks with lowered GVWR.


While you would think that, youíre wrong. Youíre unladen weight is under 8k, thatís the only thing the law really cares about. The gvwr is also only for the truck itself and how much weight is on the truck axles. Gross weight goes up as you add trailer axles.

Donít believe me? Drive that pickup of yours into a scale and see what happens.

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So here it is, yet another GVWR thread about modern day 3500's. My SRW has a GVWR that's well over the 11,499 lb rating. This means that all DRW's are in the same boat.

I'm not for hire, I don't haul for profit et cetera. Yet the vehicle I drive has a GVWR over 11,499 which means that by law, I have to declare a weight. I bought my truck new out of state and one of the DMV requirements was to have a weight cert. If a remember correctly, it tipped the scales at about 7,800 lbs unladen. Nonetheless, the door sticker shows GVWR 12,340 lbs which means i'm over the 11,499 lb benchmark and I supposed to stop at DOT weigh points; despite signs reading NO PICKUPS.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/co...=AJPERES&CVID=
I've registered a f450 from out of state into CA with gvwr at 14000 all i had to do was get unladen weight never dealt with registering as commercial.
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My 2014 Ram 3500 Drw weighed in at 9060 lbs with just my hitch in the bed. My 2017 with the Aisin transmission and the DEF emissions probably weighs more than that. So how does someone say that we are under the 8000 lb empty weight? For North Carolina, Ram has to state the empty weight of the truck. My 2019 was stated as 8600 lbs, So the DMV Computer will not accept any weighted liscence plate under 9,000 lbs for my truck. I complain about the $400.00 that I have to pay for my 20,000 lb liscence plates every year, but that barely scratches what California charges. I saw that while stationed in San Diego at Point Loma Submarine Base in 1990.

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I've registered a f450 from out of state into CA with gvwr at 14000 all i had to do was get unladen weight never dealt with registering as commercial.
All pickups in CA are considered commercial, and it has ZERO to do with operating commercially or in commerce. Any pickup over the GVWR indicated on that form, should be registered by paying the weight fees based on what you ~may~ carry in the bed or the GCWR while towing. 1/2 and 3/4 ton pickups pay a flat rate weight fee as part of the registration and one tons and up pay a fee based on the weight they may carry/ or tow, so the fees vary.

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