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How is gvwr established?

So according to my door panel my gvwr is 1000lbs. My truck has aftermarket bags and I am looking to add a rack to put a side by side above the bed rails but the SxS is 1300lbs. I am wondering what is the weak link in the 2500 is that keeps the gvwr so low? My truck can easily handle well over 1000lbs in it with no air in the bags even.

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GVWR is Curb weight plus payload. Its Based on GAWR front and rear. Like they say payload is GVWR minus curb weight.
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So according to my door panel my gvwr is 1000lbs. My truck has aftermarket bags and I am looking to add a rack to put a side by side above the bed rails but the SxS is 1300lbs. I am wondering what is the weak link in the 2500 is that keeps the gvwr so low? My truck can easily handle well over 1000lbs in it with no air in the bags even.
I think you mean 10,000 GVWR, suspension is your factor for how much weight you can carry in your bed.


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I have a 2013 3500 SRW crew cab long bed. I haul a 2016 RZR XP Turbo and a RZR 900S on the truck and in the toy hauler. I just went from a home made flat sled deck type rack to a Marlon over the cab style.
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My mega cab 2500 4x4 I had 6.4L could only carry like 3200 lbs on the truck.


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Heres a few pics for ideas. Payload is GVWR minus curb weight. And GVWR comes from combined GAWR (Gross Axle Wieght Rating).
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Heres a few pics for ideas
My man, good looking toys! You need a toy hauler.
And yes on the rear axle/springs/tires minus the truck weight. And location of the weight. More weight ahead of rear axle centerline. Air bags enhance the quality of tow weight. They do not allow for exceeding axle limits.


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That actually is a toyhauler. That's my Turbo RZR on the truck. Her RZR S 900 is in the trailer, lol
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Heres a few pics for ideas. Payload is GVWR minus curb weight. And GVWR comes from combined GAWR (Gross Axle Wieght Rating).
I’d like to do something similar but my truck is a 2500. It’s currently leveled on 37” grabber x3’s and nitro 4.30 gears. I have a travel trailer that’s about 8000 dry so I’m assuming 8400ish loaded. Pretty sure with firewood, fuel etc I would be well over 10,000lbs and around 2500 over the rear axel with a two seat rzr.

Also what rack is that your using for your rzr? Would it fit a 72” wide rig on it?
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Heres a few pics for ideas. Payload is GVWR minus curb weight. And GVWR comes from combined GAWR (Gross Axle Wieght Rating).
GVWR does not come from the GAWR, your truck's GAWR is more than the GVWR.

As to the 10,000 GVWR on the 2500, it is just an arbitrary number assigned to it to keep it below the commercial truck rating of 10,001 pounds.

The 2500 is capable of handling a lot more than it is rated for.

It's mostly all a numbers game, the only thing you have to watch is the load rating on the tires, don't exceed that.
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So your saying thereís a chance?!? Lol.

Running e rates tires that are rated for about 4000lbs. Truck is at 8700 dry. Trailer at about 8k and a toy in the bed about 1500lbs. I know the truck will pull it power wise fine but just making sure it will be safe.

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GVWR does not come from the GAWR, your truck's GAWR is more than the GVWR.

As to the 10,000 GVWR on the 2500, it is just an arbitrary number assigned to it to keep it below the commercial truck rating of 10,001 pounds.

The 2500 is capable of handling a lot more than it is rated for.

It's mostly all a numbers game, the only thing you have to watch is the load rating on the tires, don't exceed that.
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So your saying thereís a chance?!? Lol.

Running e rates tires that are rated for about 4000lbs. Truck is at 8700 dry. Trailer at about 8k and a toy in the bed about 1500lbs. I know the truck will pull it power wise fine but just making sure it will be safe.
You would have to load it all up and weigh it, then it's up to you as to what you feel comfortable with.

No manufacturer is going to go for anything over what they rate it at.

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