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level, help me decide

Currently stuck in analysis paralysis on this, want to level and have it narrowed down to 3. Primarily want tame road manners but do not want to lose any towing effectiveness, don't do any serious off roading, just fire roads and forest roads. Only tow heavy maybe 6 times a year. Want to keep it under $2K.

Thuren Fox 2.0 with trackbar and rear 2.0's $1250
Thuren King 2.0 with trackbar and rear 2.0's $1600
Carli Fox 2.0 with trackbar and rear 2.0's $1450

Any input appreciated, especially if you have one of these setups!


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After install, won't be level when you tow or haul heavy.
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After install, won't be level when you tow or haul heavy.

Understand that, don't care. Only tow or haul heavy a half dozen times a year. Just don't want it to "dolphin" with a load, be unsafe, or cause any other issues under load. I am OK with some rear squat under load if it performs OK.

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I put a 2 in leveling kit on and I hated the way it towed my 5th wheel. The front end didn't feel stable and I was running about 45 psi in the bags to keep it level. After the 2nd time towing with the leveling kit, I took it off.

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I have no complaints towing with my level kit. Did the bags in the rear and it drives great towing my trailer


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If your able to swing it i highly recommend the king shocks. Every single one of my customers that opted for those have no complaints. My customers that tow utilize air bags or timbrens to help keep everything level with the rear.

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I installed the Thuren 1.75" coils on my 2015 3500 and I'm happy with it.I really like the stance and the ride. I like the Thuren setup because I was able to perform the installation and the introduction of additional parts wasn't necessary. The notion of simply replacing existing components, without introducing new ones (radius arm brackets, etc.), was a big selling point for me.

I went with the King 2.5s and will forever wonder how much different they are from the 2.0s. But, I'm happy with the setup, the customer service and personal attention from Chris and Don at Thuren, and the delivery and quality of their parts.

P.S. Good luck with your decision, I'm sure you'll be happy with any of those options. I know I went in circles for a month or two before finally making a decision. I'd venture to say that you won't make a "bad" decision whichever way you go.

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I had Thuren w/ Fox 2.0's on my 2014. It still towed my fifth wheel fine, but I did put airbags on it to bring it back to level. With no load it was .125" lower in the front, so to the naked eye almost looked nose high. With my fifth wheel it squatted it a couple of inches. About 40 psi would bring it back to level and rode much better.

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Currently stuck in analysis paralysis on this, want to level and have it narrowed down to 3. Primarily want tame road manners but do not want to lose any towing effectiveness, don't do any serious off roading, just fire roads and forest roads. Only tow heavy maybe 6 times a year. Want to keep it under $2K.

Thuren Fox 2.0 with trackbar and rear 2.0's $1250
Thuren King 2.0 with trackbar and rear 2.0's $1600
Carli Fox 2.0 with trackbar and rear 2.0's $1450

Any input appreciated, especially if you have one of these setups!
Out of those 3 I'd go with the first - I don't personally see a $100 benefit per corner going from King 2.0 to Fox 2.0, personally, especially keeping the rear springs factory - Fox 2.0 to King 2.5, yes.

I'm still torn between the 2" front springs to level it or the 1" front springs to bring it more mildly up in front - I don't run big honking tires just factory 285/60/20 - worst comes to worst if I want a bit more rake added with the 2" front I can always add a 1" lift spacer in the rear

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I just received my Thuren 1" coils upfront with King 2.0 all the way around and front track bar and they know how to ship stuff everything was packaged the way it supposed to be done. The guys at Thuren were very helpful and always answered the phone!
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I have a mixture....I went with Carli 2.5" springs and Fox 2.0's, and have Thuren track bars front and year. Love the ride.....it looks like it sits perfectly level. I have not towed heavy yet but I know I will be nose high when I do. If I could do it all over again, I would probably have went all Thuren just for the fact that their customer service was awesome when I had a question about the rear track bar. Not bashing Carli at all, because I have been very happy with their product too. I may try the King 2.5's after these Fox 2.0's wear out but I got awhile for that but at least I can start saving for them

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thanks for the input, probably go with option one since the consensus seems to be to see a huge difference in performance you'd have to go King 2.5's, and then eat the huge difference in price.

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