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Leveling kit help!

First post for me and a new Cummins owner. Bare with me as I am not very knowledgeable in this stuff but would love to learn. I have a 2015 2500 6.7l CCSB 4wd. I just bought the truck Saturday and I believe it is a 2.5 inch coil spacer lift on the front with what looks like stock shocks. It has airbags in the rear with stock shocks as well. It sits nose high and I dont like it. I dont want to raise the rear, but instead, lower the front to level it out. Will just taking the 2.5 inch coil spacer off, and add Bilstein 5100 on the front to whatever height I need to make it level, I would assume probably 1.5-1.75inch¬Ě. I would also replace rear shocks to Bilstein as well. I have 295/60R20 right now, I may stick with that size or go to 285/65R20 all terrain.
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You could put a smaller spacer in(say 1.5 or 2 inch) or better option is add some 1 or 2 inch Thuren coils that will give you a much better ride.

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I was told spacers on coils will wear out your front end faster than normal, is that true?. I was thinking just take it off and add the Bilstein will be the cheapest route, about $100 per shock so roughly $400 plus labor because I don’t have the tools to mess with the coils. Now my next thing though is, will the stock coils work if let’s say I put the Bilstein shocks at 1.5”? Or would I need to purchase new coils like Thuren?
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I was told spacers on coils will wear out your front end faster than normal. I was thinking just take it off and add the Bilstein will be the cheapest route, about $100 per shock so roughly $400 plus labor because I donít have the tools to mess with the coils
Yes you can just take them out but it will not be level!! It will have a rake, I would just put the Bilstein 4600's in!! JMO

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I’m really kind of confused w your comment/inquiry. Yes it appears you have a spacer upfront.
(1) if the spacer is too big, remove it or replace it with a 1.5-2” spacer.

(2) you need to look where the shock attaches to the axle. If the shocks are infact stock like you claim, there will probably be a shock extension between the axle mount and the shock. If the shocks were replaced with longer ones then it will be missing the extension

(3) if they are 3” coil spacers and installed properly look for an adjustable track bar, or a bracket between the track bar and the frame side mount on the drivers side of the frame near the Pittman arm.

(4) I’ve also heard coil spacers wear out the coils quick(er) but to be honest I’m not sure how or why if it’s even true.

(5) if you want to completely remove the coil spacer and get stock length shocks that’s perfectly fine.

(6) someone has already mentioned, you can replace factory coils with thuren or Carli coils and improve the front end ride.

(7) if you want to try and do the work yourself and purchase the tools, it’s not that hard.

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Awesome thanks! I will have to look for the shock spacer and the track bar tomorrow when I get home to confirm what is stock and isn’t.
If I went with thuren 2 inch coils, I will have to have an extended shock correct? Would Bilstein 4600 fit with bigger coils or would I have to go with 5100 since they are adjustable?
Also, I’m not really sure how spacers will wear down coils faster either, confuses me how that came about but if anyone knows I’d love to hear why.
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You will need a shock designed for the lift your looking for. I believe the 4600 and 5100 can be bad in diff shock length. If you go back to stock heigh get a shock designed for stock length. If you go 1.5-2” spacer, get a shock labeled as for “ram with 1-2” leveling kit”

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The factory airbag trucks will always sit about 1/4-1/2" lower in the rear than the same coil spring trucks and thats why a leveling spring or spacer on them makes it look nose high.

I would swap out for the 1.5" Traxda kit (not a lot of people making them) or the 1.75" ReadyLift kit and you will not only be happier with the desired outcome you won't feel the need for another set of tires (they come with shock extenders for the front travel so you can use the normal Bilstein yellow 4600 series) - however you can use 5100's all around with either of those spacer kits and just not use the relocation brackets in the Traxda kit if you chose that one

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Awesome thanks! I will have to look for the shock spacer and the track bar tomorrow when I get home to confirm what is stock and isnít.
If I went with thuren 2 inch coils, I will have to have an extended shock correct? You have to buy the shocks they spec for their springs, choosing an off the shelf shock will have the damping and valving way off - Thuren's cheapest front shocks are their Overland white bodies, if you want matching shocks all around their cheapest option is Fox 2.0 as they do not sell Overland shocks for stock rear coils

Would Bilstein 4600 fit with bigger coils or would I have to go with 5100 since they are adjustable? Again, don't use either with Thuren coils
Also, Iím not really sure how spacers will wear down coils faster either, confuses me how that came about but if anyone knows Iíd love to hear why.
If you are going to spend the money with Thuren, call them and tell them what you want -

They *DO* sell links for the airbag trucks which will actually give you a bit more rake, with the 2" coils (again because the airbag trucks will look more squatted than rear coil trucks) - highly recommended if you are going with Thuren setup. The key is don't mix and match, Thuren knows their system and using their system together will give the best ride quality and satisfaction

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Here are the links for the airbag trucks - https://www.thurenfabrication.com/pr...ks-1-lift.html


Btw - what 295/60/20 tires you running? Looks real good! Any rub at full lock?

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If your truck has factory air suspension in the rear, then its level from factory. Remove the front spacer. If its aftermarket airbags, then install a small spacer on the front.

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If your truck has factory air suspension in the rear, then its level from factory.
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Level from the factory can't possibly be as good as level after spending time and money, can it?

Maybe if we start telling people that the brain is an app, they will start using it?

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