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Not really surprised at the brand loyal fool responses...what else is new here. The amazing thing is those who continue stand by the joke of a transmission the 68RFE is. Face it, its a slush box and everyone knows it, except the ones with their head up their...

I'm not brand loyal. All I want is reliability, I'd consider a Chevy with Allison but Ford has far more advanced features/tech.

I gave RAM a shot for 6 years but apparently it ain't worth a . 12 recalls...6+ years later I'm still getting recall letters.. Undeniable! WHAT A JOKE.

Peace fellas.
What kind of response are you looking for? You didn't even ask a question in your opening statement. Not trying to be a wise guy.

The 6 speed allison is a decent trans stock but wont hold much added power without being upgraded. I actually like the 68rfe. I've driven the ford 6r140 pretty extensively and hated it! It never wanted to lock the TC and it drove me nuts! If you're expecting no trans problems I would shy away from the 2020 ford as they are getting the new 10r140 and history tells us anything from the 10r80 then it will be littered with problems. I would try diagnosing your trans and possibly get a built one or just ditch the thing if you want and gamble on a ford. Your call. A ZF-8 would be a dream behind the cummins though. I wish you the best of luck with whichever route you go!


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Yeah, those 68's are sure junk, mine has only been trouble free for 487K miles, with lots of heavy towing.

Buy the ford, they can be nice trucks, they can be junk, about like all brands.

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What kind of response are you looking for? You didn't even ask a question in your opening statement. Not trying to be a wise guy.

The 6 speed allison is a decent trans stock but wont hold much added power without being upgraded. I actually like the 68rfe. I've driven the ford 6r140 pretty extensively and hated it! It never wanted to lock the TC and it drove me nuts! If you're expecting no trans problems I would shy away from the 2020 ford as they are getting the new 10r140 and history tells us anything from the 10r80 then it will be littered with problems. I would try diagnosing your trans and possibly get a built one or just ditch the thing if you want and gamble on a ford. Your call. A ZF-8 would be a dream behind the cummins though. I wish you the best of luck with whichever route you go!
Yeah that's my issue. I don't want to buy 1st year products, but at the same time trade in value of my truck is only 6k less than I paid for it. Time to get out while i'm still ahead.

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Not really surprised at the brand loyal fool responses...what else is new here. The amazing thing is those who continue stand by the joke of a transmission the 68RFE is. Face it, its a slush box and everyone knows it, except the ones with their head up their...

I'm not brand loyal. All I want is reliability, I'd consider a Chevy with Allison but Ford has far more advanced features/tech.

I gave RAM a shot for 6 years but apparently it ain't worth a . 12 recalls...6+ years later I'm still getting recall letters.. Undeniable! WHAT A JOKE.

Peace fellas.
No. Not brand loyal.

We are all monkey wrenchers here. We actually fix these trucks. Inline six makes it easier, with the cab on.



So more like "Design Loyal".
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No. Not brand loyal.

We are all monkey wrenchers here. We actually fix these trucks. Inline six makes it easier, with the cab on.



So more like "Design Loyal".
Design Loyal on the Cummins motor I can understand...but Design loyal on a 68RFE?

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Design Loyal on the Cummins motor I can understand...but Design loyal on a 68RFE?
You do realize Ram offers another HD transmission right?

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From what I’ve read the 68rfe isn’t a bad transmission and can be built to take some abuse. Heck I’ve towed 30k lbs on a built 47re and it’s still holding fine in my 2nd gen after 100k miles. If you want a proper towing transmission from the factory behind a Cummins pickup I hear good things about the Aisin option. I have a G56 transmission in my 4th gen and so far the only problem I had was the dual mass flywheel. Recently towed #32,600 no issues and I have 3.42s gearing.
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You do realize Ram offers another HD transmission right?
I believe we've been talking about the 68RFE the entire post. Maybe I wasn't clear enough....

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I was just checking to see if you were going to post endlessly about the shortcomings of that one too.

MachAF, good luck.

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You do realize Ram offers another HD transmission right?
I believe we've been talking about the 68RFE the entire post. Maybe I wasn't clear enough....
What I don’t understand is you talk about how bad this transmission is but won’t consider one of the others Ram offers. Until 2019 you had 3 to choose from. While ford and gm only offer one. You can check out the others forums and you’ll see like all manufactures each has its issues. But thank God we live in the USA where you are free to choose who you give your hard earned money to and the government of course. Good luck
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On your error, could just be low oil or loose filter. Make sure you are choking the level properly.

Iíll definitely agree the 68rfe is a poor design. They are very fail prone, and have weaknesses. When the transmission was designed, it was built to handle a set max HP. At the time, it was higher than needed. But as the power wars increased, it was quickly under.

RAM even admits the 68rfe is not as good. They out sourced a better transmission for 1ton n up high output. Ford and GM only offer one automatic. The ONLY reason RAM has 2 power levels IS because of the 68RFE.

The 68rfe is an in house designed and built transmission, it costs them ~$400 or so per unit. Compared to the stronger outsourced transmission that costs RAM more per unit. Thus affecting how much RAM Makes per truck. So RAM de rates 3/4 tons and offers a stronger transmission on many 1ton n up trucks.

Buy a FORD diesel and get same power rating across the board.
Buy a GM diesel and get the same power rating across the board.
Buy a RAM diesel and you have different power ratings.. why? Is it to offer the consumer more options? Humm, no. Itís cause the 68rfe reached its design max years ago.

If the 68rfe could be built to handle 450HP, RAM would have done it already. They would save millions a year by only using an in house transmission.


Look, in a completely stock application, when used under rated value ( towing), the 68rfe can last as long as the Cummins. But, add a cold air intake or ~5 more HP, and the usable life will decrease. Our larger tires, and usable life will decrease. ( install lower gears will help). Tow 8 more oz over rated numbers and the usable life will be shorter.

Itís the same for built transmissions. Absolutely no 68rfe built at any price with impossible metal will only handle ~380HP. You can buy a $36,000 transmission rated to hold 500hp, and only feed it 400hp and itíll fail. Itís a design flaw and limit, nothing you can do or build will make a 68rfe last long with more than 400hp... youíll see those that will disagree, and say they have a built transmission and 400hp ands fine. But they probably drive less than 80,000 yr or never tow.

Anyway, I have a real good hate for the RFE line of transmissions. The 545 and 68 are just poor and limited designs.



Obviously, all the major tucks have their own unique issues. Ford and GM trucks have their own common flaws too. Switching will just change what the common fail point is.

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