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post #13 of 134 (permalink) Old 08-24-2019, 12:22 PM
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The only roadside checks I’ve seen in California are for those that are so intelligent they drive drunk, stoned, or both. Never seen any for equipment violators. Have seen the Highway Patrol many times pull em over for overloaded conditions.
Yep, the only DOT inspections in Ca are run by the California Highway Patrol at commercial enforcement inspection stations. They do not stop or want to see pickups and RV's in those stations. In fact there is a big sign at the entrance, "no pickups".
CHP (the DOT) only inspects vehicles defined in the Code of Federal Regulations over 26,001 lbs GVWR .
CHP officers driving marked pickups have portable scales in the back for random overweight and mechanical/driver log book violations.

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Emission requirements are not a state by state case. Those laws are federal. It's up to the state to decide if they want to enforce and/inspect any vehicles.

That said, what was the "hefty fine" and what were the exact violations cited on the ticket? I've been pulled over in a deleted truck too. Drove off with nothing more than a speeding ticket. I would like to see actual documents prior to me buying into this.
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So what was the fine amount? $$?

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Yep, the only DOT inspections in Ca are run by the California Highway Patrol at commercial enforcement inspection stations. They do not stop or want to see pickups and RV's in those stations. In fact there is a big sign at the entrance, "no pickups".
CHP (the DOT) only inspects vehicles defined in the Code of Federal Regulations over 26,001 lbs GVWR .
Well, except for when they set up temporary check points along the road, often concentrating on certain types of vehicles, such as buses.

Also, there's no minimum GVWR for having to stop at scales. "No pickups" means that even a 1500 with a flatbed may have to pull in, as it's no longer a pickup.

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It WAS the DOT and he was not pulling commercially.
I know that the DOT and EPA regulates emissions on all new vehicles but had not heard of it before on a roadside check on non commercial vehicles.
This person is about the most reliable person you can meet. He was so proud of the power and mileage he was getting on his new truck with all of the GOV junk removed until he got stopped. But was quick to put it all back on.
And not paying out of state tickets is never an option these days. Computer systems can get you where ever you are.
I moved to Alaska in 2012. Last year Louisiana tried to garnish my income tax return for not renewing my vehicle registration in LA. It took me months to prove to them that they were and had been registered in AK.
I had to supply affadavits from INS company showing coverage dates and such just to keep my own money. Just hope this is not an example of things to come from the revenue generating GOV agencies.
Hello fellow Alaskan.

Did you ever see his truck? I would expect they aren't just randomly pulling over RVs looking for emissions equipment. I would guess he was making a lot of smoke and thus drew attention, especially if he was in California where they at least used to regularly do smoke opacity checks. I've worried that even in Alaska people regularly "rolling coal" will eventually result in more regulation and attention to diesel vehicles.
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Up here the scales say any vehicle over 4500kg. That being said if your under pulling a trailer or a load unsafe your liable just like the rest.

Your friend took a risk when he removed the equipment. Just like speeding. Broke a law and can’t be made he got caught. Not saying I wouldn’t be pissed but that’s life.

I watch class 8 trucks that are a disgusting mess reive everywhere and passed scales. While the clean one gets a ticket. It’s the way it is. If/when I delete my truck hopefully I won’t be fined.
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I thought this may have been an isolated incident. But was just checking.
About the first post I used to be on this forum years ago and had to re register mister 5000 posts.
This type of stuff is why I stay away from the LEFT coast.
I personally live in Alaska where there are no inspection or emissions BS. As long as you have head lights and brake lights here you are fine.

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Well, except for when they set up temporary check points along the road, often concentrating on certain types of vehicles, such as buses.

Also, there's no minimum GVWR for having to stop at scales. "No pickups" means that even a 1500 with a flatbed may have to pull in, as it's no longer a pickup.
I spent two weeks training at a CHP commercial enforcement station, I can assure you no one under the regulated GVWR of 26,001lbs pulled into the station for a weigh or an inspection. Uhaul and rental trucks were also not required to stop.
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I see CHP inspection pickup trucks roaming California highways on a monthly basis! Logging trucks are their favorite target in my area. A buddy of mine was stopped at a temporary inspection station on highway 41 making his way to Huckfest in Pismo Beach. They wrote him up for mud flaps and bead-locks.

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I spent two weeks training at a CHP commercial enforcement station, I can assure you no one under the regulated GVWR of 26,001lbs pulled into the station for a weigh or an inspection. Uhaul and rental trucks were also not required to stop.


I call BS! I drive a truck for work that is a GVWR of 26,000lbs and I have to stop at all check point stations. I’ve also had pickups with flatbeds, enclosed boxes, and utility beds. All of those vehicles have to stop. I did not know this the first time I drove the first flatbed that I had and was run down by a chp officer for not stopping.
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Law enforcement stopping a private vehicle under 26001 lbs with out reasonable suspicion is a violation of your 4th amendment rights. Unless you are "rolling coal" or breaking another law, you cannot be stopped for what this guy was stopped for. I've been a police officer /detective for 15 years and that's never heard of this.
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He probably rolled some coal. Seems most deleted trucks towing a heavy trailer seem to blow some black smoke under normal acceleration. Some bored officer probably saw and and said what the heck.

Not paying it would be a risky proposal. An unpaid ticket can actually prevent you from renewing you insurance, your vehicle registration and can even cause you license to be suspended. Many states, actually most states share this information with other states, especially neighboring states. You better know how your state handles it before choosing to ignore it and never go back. Plus once a warrant is issue, and it will be it remains open and any trip back to that state would put you at risk.

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