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Anyone done Katzkin leather?

Yesterday, I ordered the Katzkin leather kit for my 2018 RAM 3500 Crew Cab Tradesman. The factory cloth has held up well, better than my previous Fords, for 14k miles. However, I prefer the look and ease of cleaning that comes with leather.

Because my truck is a manual transmission, I had to order a custom piece for the center seat / console. Cost an extra $65.

I also opted to add a pair of front seat heaters for $75 which seemed very reasonable.

Has anyone done a RAM before? I did my 2017 Ford XLT crew and it went pretty well. Labor intensive, but satisfying result. Does RAM use hog rings or snap rails?

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I have Katzkin's in my 2016 and love them, top quality. However I did not do the install myself I had a authorized Katzkin dealer do it. Looking under mine I do not see any hog rings, only plastic rails. Not sure if that helps you or not?

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I have the Sport bucket seats on my Big Horny and they seem to be sturdy but I do plan on getting the Katzkin's done or another high quality leather kit, having a dog even though just the inners of mine being cloth, I will admit they don't hold much hair at all but it does take a while longer to get the hair out of the cloth when cleaning, and the seat heat doesn't get as warm because cloth doesn't hold it as well as leather -

Its sort of a "when I get around to doing it" type of thing for me, and as long as I can keep my factory heated function (I do not believe the seat heaters are sewn on the factory covers like other vehicles), I'll get them redone.

Another good looking set was www.leatherseats.com - Although most of your local upholstery installers will sell Katzkin - I would pay the extra few bucks to have the seat covers installed as they have several tricks with steam, etc to get the fitment perfect -

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In my experience the cloth seats transfer heat better than leather, but we'll see. My Tradesman doesn't have heated seats obviously. However, the 2017 Ford XLT did come with heated seats, and installing the Katzkin leather was no problem. The pad is separate.

As for the install, you can do it yourself and it will look perfect. It is a lot of labor and that's what you are paying for. Here's my Ford truck, before and after, showing the rear seat. What few ripples / wrinkles are visible go away after a month or so...
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Yesterday, I ordered the Katzkin leather kit for my 2018 RAM 3500 Crew Cab Tradesman. The factory cloth has held up well, better than my previous Fords, for 14k miles. However, I prefer the look and ease of cleaning that comes with leather.



Because my truck is a manual transmission, I had to order a custom piece for the center seat / console. Cost an extra $65.



I also opted to add a pair of front seat heaters for $75 which seemed very reasonable.



Has anyone done a RAM before? I did my 2017 Ford XLT crew and it went pretty well. Labor intensive, but satisfying result. Does RAM use hog rings or snap rails?



Thanks in advance.

Ill post some more pics shortly, I had it put in my 18 which is a manual.




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Wow that looks really nice.

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My leather is arriving today, except the center seat / console piece which is coming from a different location and will take longer to arrive. The seat heaters also will be here later. However, I can get started on the back seats; I'll be sure to post before / after pics. I'm excited for this upgrade.

Thanks for the pic, KeepEmRolling...looks great!

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Those Katzkin's on the Ford and on your manual 18 look great! I'll keep in mind DIY'ing mine, but with a newborn and limited time its one of those things I probably would happily spend the money to have it look perfect and done perfect -

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Well, I've got the rear seats and right front seat done, leaving on the driver's seat and center console / seat. I've added the heated seat pads in the passenger seat as well.

Unfortunately, RAM still uses hog rings with these seats. In the rear, there are only a few. In the front, there are 13 hog rings in each seat base. The small-type rings are what is being used, and in the front seats they are especially buried. Otherwise, north-south seams are handled by velcro rails, and the cloth / leather is stretched by way of the usual latching clips. The seat-mounted side airbags were not an issue. They need to be removed including the wiring harness before the leather can be installed, but the Katzkin has the same special bag-canvas for the airbag to reside in, and the tear-seam is built in, along with the "airbag" tag on the seat.

The center console is bolted into both front seats and this makes it a bit trickier. The leather does have a few wrinkles / folds in it, but these will go completely away once installed after a few weeks. The leather seems to have a little thicker backing on it and the seats seem to be a tad more comfortable, but for me, it's mostly the improved appearance, and easier to clean which I value. Adding the heaters is just a bonus.

I'm kicking myself for not adding another heater kit to use in the back seats...nothing preventing you from adding rear heated seats as well.

The seat heaters seem robust...rather than a wire grid which makes continual s-turns from one fillister to another, this pad uses a diamond grid which connects to anode and cathode wires on each side encased in tape. Unlike the wire method, which causes the seat heater to fail if the wire breaks anywhere along the path, the diamond pattern means a break can occur and the remaining unbroken sections will continue to heat. You can also cut the heater pad to allow for different seat sizes.

Anyway, the truck is going to the dealer tomorrow for front-end issues and I won't have time tonight, so the dealer will wonder why one seat is cloth and the others are leather, but oh well. Once I finish, I'll post pics. So far, I have 9 hours into this project. The Ford took 11, I suspect I'll have close to 14 hours with this truck. Maybe the licensed installer shops with more experience can do all this in 6-7 hours, but its easy to see why install costs are so high. This is patience work.
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Ah, what the heck...here's a shot of the completed rear seat:
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Looks good! I'd like to see what the fronts look like once you get it all wrapped up!

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Thanks. Passenger front is done but still need time for the drivers.

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