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Ccv delete question?

I see companies making ccv delete kits. Do you need to gut your ccv filter or just keep running old filter with the delete kit? Replace with new filter then use a delete kit? Searched around but couldnt find info. I read guys gutting the filter but either 1 or the other. S and b doesnt mention anything about gutting existing filter or even changing it. Im do for service and looking for advice. Thanks for any info

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Why do you want to delete it?

Is your truck tuned? If not, it will need to be to keep it from popping a code.

Lots simpler to just put new filters in as needed, they work pretty well too, my truck is at 462K and still running all original emissions equipment.
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Why do you want to delete it?

Is your truck tuned? If not, it will need to be to keep it from popping a code.

Lots simpler to just put new filters in as needed, they work pretty well too, my truck is at 462K and still running all original emissions equipment.
Yes truck is deleted and tuned but i have no box installed. Basic delete. Not sure really why to delete it. Thought it was the thing to do instead of oil getting into turbo. Truck has 142000 now. Replaced filter once. The kits are cheaper than filter and thought it was the healthier thing to do for the truck. Not opposed to just a new filter.
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If the filter is working properly you will not get oil in your turbo. The filter should be replaced every 6,500 miles, so why even bother deleting it.

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Yes truck is deleted and tuned but i have no box installed. Basic delete. Not sure really why to delete it. Thought it was the thing to do instead of oil getting into turbo. Truck has 142000 now. Replaced filter once. The kits are cheaper than filter and thought it was the healthier thing to do for the truck. Not opposed to just a new filter.
Your filter should have been replaced at least twice by 142K, they are scheduled in the ECM every 67,500 miles unless they get clogged up sooner. The ECM will show the "Perform Service" message in the EVIC, that is the CCV filter change reminder. And, a proper working CCV filter, that has been serviced as required, will not let any appreciable amount of oil to pass into the turbo inlet.



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If the filter is working properly you will not get oil in your turbo. The filter should be replaced every 6,500 miles, so why even bother deleting it.

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You left a digit out of your replacement interval! 67,500, not 6,500...

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You are correct I did. Although just think of how clean things would be if you did change every 6,500 miles

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Yes truck is deleted and tuned but i have no box installed. Basic delete. Not sure really why to delete it. Thought it was the thing to do instead of oil getting into turbo. Truck has 142000 now. Replaced filter once. The kits are cheaper than filter and thought it was the healthier thing to do for the truck. Not opposed to just a new filter.
Your filter should have been replaced at least twice by 142K, they are scheduled in the ECM every 67,500 miles unless they get clogged up sooner. The ECM will show the "Perform Service" message in the EVIC, that is the CCV filter change reminder. And, a proper working CCV filter, that has been serviced as required, will not let any appreciable amount of oil to pass into the turbo inlet.



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If the filter is working properly you will not get oil in your turbo. The filter should be replaced every 6,500 miles, so why even bother deleting it.

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You left a digit out of your replacement interval! 67,500, not 6,500...
I said just turned 142000 and was either gonna delete or replace it. Was curious if i could just put the delte kit in without gutting it
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If the filter is working properly you will not get oil in your turbo.

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With a stock engine the filter will work perfectly. If you start adding power, the blow by will eventually increase due to being run beyond design. The filter may not be able to handle the added fumes. It is fairly common to see cranked up engines with excessive crankcase fumes. My ICS in my work truck is approaching 16,000 hours and the filter still handles the load. I change it every 2,000 hours as per Cummins.
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I said just turned 142000 and was either gonna delete or replace it. Was curious if i could just put the delte kit in without gutting it
Are you having issues with it now? If not just replace the filter.


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Its easy to gut the filter. i did mine a couple weeks ago and took me all of about 15 min to do. There is a couple of youtube videos that guys show how to do it without cutting it all to pieces as well. I also had an old catch can laying around, so I put it right next to the outlet for the CCV cover and it looks pretty good just chillin right where the EGR was.

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Is your truck tuned? If not, it will need to be to keep it from popping a code.
It won’t throw a code if you delete the filter (gut it) and vent to atmosphere.

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The research I’ve done, you either need to leave it stock, or gut the filter and vent to atmosphere.
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I said just turned 142000 and was either gonna delete or replace it. Was curious if i could just put the delte kit in without gutting it
Are you having issues with it now? If not just replace the filter.
No issues was just wanting to perform the service.
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