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Amazon HID kit- INNOVITED 55w 5000k in stock projectors

Attention everyone. If your HIDís flicker itís not the kit itís your truck! AlfaOBD fixes this. @Xokia did some research to see if the software actually changes your trucks settings to allow HIDís and sure enough it does.

Hereís his thread

https://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/2...-alphaobd.html

If after performing this fix and your HIDís still donít work then itís probably your kit that needs to be replaced.

Link to software that allows you to run HIDís in your truck

AlfaOBD





Incase your wondering if the less expensive kits work in our trucks..the answer is yes.

The Retro Fit Source had me sold on the idea I needed a 2015+ Mopar HID Kit that comes with a harness specifically designed for our CANBUS trucks. While thereís nothing wrong with their kit or their harness (successfully ran them on my past 2 trucks) is it really necessary to spend $200+ dollars?

I found a guy on YouTube whose running this same (amazon) kit on his 1500 and his works with no issues. So it got me thinking, could it work on a 2500 as well?

So I ordered the parts. A whopping $58 and received them today. I installed them and as soon as I fired them up they both ignited with no startup issues. Truck on or off. No issues starting up. No flickering or bulb out error message.

Now I know what your thinking, itís too soon to tell if theyíll be worth it long term. And to that I would have to agree. However if these prove to be worth it then it definitely saved me a ton of money and I hope it will save you money as well.

Whatís interesting is both Diode Dynamics and INNOVITED kits are designed the same way. For one itís way fewer parts then TRS says you need in a kit. Plus theyíre both less expensive than TRS. However Diode Dynamics kits costs $150 plus you need the anti flicker capacitor for another $30 for a total of $180. Maybe itís for overhead costs? Probably why Amazon is cheaper? Direct to consumer?

Anywho..hereís what TRS says I needed. HD relay, 4 load resistors, plus a anti flicker capacitor.



Hereís what INNOVITED sent me. Much simpler..inside the box is the ballast and bulbs and in the ziploc baggie are the anti flicker capacitors. (Again same setup as diode dynamics but half the cost!)



Hereís whatís inside




And here it is installed ready to go. Again much less parts! Which means less places to have to mount all the additional parts TRS says I needed. All I had to do was mount 1 ballast per side which was 1 screw.





Once it gets dark Iíll take plenty of photos to show light output.

In closing this isnít a knock to TRS. Yes their kits work and yes Iíve successfully ran them in the past. However I donít like being sold a bill of goods that I need all those parts. If I can run less parts at a fraction of the price then Iíd say this was a huge win. I also understand the value of running a HD relay.

If in two weeks or two months these fail then o well. Lesson learned right.

Like @K9Kodi once told me, you never know until you try. Plus this will erase the myth that all amazon kits are cheap.

Link to parts

HID KIT




ANTI FLICKER CAPACITORS




YouTube channel of the guy who tried it on his truck

https://www.youtube.com/user/Boosted2k

link to other thread where my TRS kit wouldnít work

https://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/2...u-hid-kit.html


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Incase anyone is wondering.. here’s some good info. Currently posted on page 12 but I figure I’d relocate to the first page so no one has to go digging for this info.

How Projector Headlights Work

Projector headlight use a very simple design. At it’s most basic form, there are three parts:

Reflector
Lens
Light source (halogen bulb, HID or LED)



The reflector portion is similar to what you see in a flashlight. It’s a reflective half-sphere that throws the light from the light source in a specific direction.

The lens bends, spreads or concentrates the light. The distance the light source and reflector are from the lens determine the intensity and dissipation or concentration of the light.

Similar to a Magnifying Glass

An easy way to wrap your head around this is to compare this to a handheld magnifying glass. If you’ve ever been 9 years old, you know that when you take a magnifying glass outside on a sunny day you can have some fun. If you line things up just right with the sunlight and a dry leaf, the magnifying glass lens will concentrate the sunlight to a fine point and the leaf will begin to burn and smoke. If the magnifying glass is held too closely, or too far away, the light spreads and the leaf doesn’t burn.

The Cutoff Shield

The cutoff shield creates a distinct light barrier so that the light coming out of the headlight is concentrated out and down, and keeps the light from exiting out and up, which would blind oncoming traffic. You’ll probably recognize this, but here is a shot of the distinct barrier that a cutoff shield produces:



The Solenoid

Without the cutoff shield, you’d get a more round light output shape, similar to a flashlight. Which leads me to the next component of the headlight, which is the solenoid. The solenoid controls the high and low beams. The cutoff that you see above is for the low beams. When the high beams are engages, the solenoid drops the cutoff shield out of the way allowing all of the light the pass through, giving you full light output, or in other words, your high beams.

Pros & Cons of Projector Headlights

Pros:

Even distribution of light with little to no “hot spots” or intense and weak spots.
Distinct cutoff of low beams, which keeps oncoming traffic from being blinded.
Because of the distinct cutoff, projectors can handle a brighter headlight bulb, namely high intensity discharge (HID) bulbs.
A brighter headlight bulb provides a better night driving experience.
Projectors look awesome.

Cons:

The light output looks different than that of a reflector headlight. Most like it or prefer it, but there are some that don’t. It’s a matter of opinion. You’ll have to make that call yourself.

How Does a Reflector Headlight Work?

Reflector headlight use an even more simple design. It consists of a light source (headlight bulb) that is situated in the middle of the reflector cup. Here is a cross section of that design:



Pros & Cons of a Reflector Headlights

Pros:

Simple design. Less expensive to manufacture

Cons:

Light output is less controlled and the low beam cutoff for oncoming traffic is less distinct.
Because the light output is a less controlled, high output light sources are not used with this design. Most reflector headlights use a halogen bulb which puts out less hight than an HID.
The beam often has intense and weak spots in the beam.

Info taken from website I found on google

https://bestheadlightbulbs.com/proje...which-is-best/


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Iím totally tempted to try these. Do they only offer 55w? I canít figure out what else they sell on my phone.
They offer 35w kits as well. Just have to search on amazon. I saw them on there. About $10 less.

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Interested in how they work out. I want to go black factory style projectors up front eventually.


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So far so good. No bulb out messages at all today. No flickering either.

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