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post #13 of 278 (permalink) Old 08-26-2018, 01:21 PM
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Gale @ 8min 25 sec: "I'm gonna learn a lot, cause I don't know a lot about this"

Yeah right! He knows a lot more than he lets on. I like Gale Banks, he is real smart, but a bit of a smart aleck. He talked a good amount of smack on the monster ram video, but backed it all up with numbers.

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I think the Mag-Hytec looks good also but the vented rear diff cover that cames with the Aisin option trucks also looks cool. I like the looks of my OEM vented cover. I'm more worried about the thin OEM front diff cover from a rock or something than anything else.
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The solution will probably come out in video part 2. No other reason not to just give the result in the first video. Take like 30 mins to do the test.
Not sure how one would do even one test, let alone comparisons, in 30 minutes.

If Gale's using his standard grade on the freeway for the real world testing it takes about 15 minutes just to get to it. Then the ambient temperature must be about the same for all tests.

If on a dyno, it's not quite real world results as the air flow will be different. And even then there would have to be a cool-down period between tests.

Guess I should watch Part 1 before I babble any more about this, huh?

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Not sure how one would do even one test, let alone comparisons, in 30 minutes.

If Gale's using his standard grade on the freeway for the real world testing it takes about 15 minutes just to get to it. Then the ambient temperature must be about the same for all tests.

If on a dyno, it's not quite real world results as the air flow will be different. And even then there would have to be a cool-down period between tests.

Guess I should watch Part 1 before I babble any more about this, huh?
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im curious as well to see what banks discovers. I'm sure we'll be pleasantly surprised.

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Guess I should watch Part 1 before I babble any more about this, huh?
Yes you should!

He has it on a dyno with air flow to match freeway speeds. Even has a meter on the axle to measure air speed. He also has the rear end set up with fluid level meters and temperature gauges. It took a lot of work to set up everything in the video clip. The only thing left to do was take a run at it and measure temperature. Drain and swap to aftermarket cover and take another pass after itís cool. Which would not take long to do given the giant fan setup he has to generate wind speed.

As I said it took a lot of time to set all that up. Would only take another 30 mins on the dyno to do the actual test. Then do it again a few hours later at most for the aftermarket cover. With all the ďproductionĒ already done the only reason the tests arenít in the same video is for marketting purposes that I mentioned already.

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Yes you should!

He has it on a dyno with air flow to match freeway speeds. Even has a meter on the axle to measure air speed. He also has the rear end set up with fluid level meters and temperature gauges. It took a lot of work to set up everything in the video clip. The only thing left to do was take a run at it and measure temperature. Drain and swap to aftermarket cover and take another pass after itís cool. Which would not take long to do given the giant fan setup he has to generate wind speed.

As I said it took a lot of time to set all that up. Would only take another 30 mins on the dyno to do the actual test. Then do it again a few hours later at most for the aftermarket cover. With all the ďproductionĒ already done the only reason the tests arenít in the same video is for marketting purposes that I mentioned already.
Should've known. Gale tends to be very analytical, so the most controllable test would be on a dyno.
I'll definitely check out the video, but now I'm really tempted to call and get the results before the official release. Which, if he tells me, I obviously couldn't share. So I'll just wait.

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It's a differential, who gives a $hit, If the diff cover wasn't visible, this thread wouldn't exist. Got to love marketing.

I can think of 0 diff failures due to over heating of a properly setup rear end.

I've got 99 problems, but a diff ain't one.
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I can think of 0 diff failures due to over heating of a properly setup rear end.
And therein lies the problem. We have AAM axles, not necessarily properly set up axles.
I couldn't care less what the covers look like, but if one can improve the odds of my AAM axles living a longer life, I'm all for it.

Then again, I'm one of those dummies who change the diff fluid at 500 to 1,500 miles, too.
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And therein lies the problem. We have AAM axles, not necessarily properly set up axles.
I couldn't care less what the covers look like, but if one can improve the odds of my AAM axles living a longer life, I'm all for it.

Then again, I'm one of those dummies who change the diff fluid at 500 to 1,500 miles, too.
Changed my diff oil less than 2,000 miles as well. Wanted to get the Royal Purple in there plus wanted the magnetic properties of the new set up.
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Anyone who doesnt know by now that Banks is going to jump in the differential cover bandwagon doesnt understand how marketing rules the consumer world. Gale Banks would not bother making a video showing how he's "learning" about differential covers if he isnt planning on presenting his newly designed (and better than everything else out there) differential cover in part 2. It only makes sense...
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Anyone who doesnt know by now that Banks is going to jump in the differential cover bandwagon doesnt understand how marketing rules the consumer world. Gale Banks would not bother making a video showing how he's "learning" about differential covers if he isnt planning on presenting his newly designed (and better than everything else out there) differential cover in part 2. It only makes sense...
Yep. And the key words here are "better than everything else". Not holds more fluid, or has more cooling fins, or looks nicer.
When Gale puts out a product it works as well as practicable.

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