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Recall R46 / NHTSA Campaign Number: 15V-541

I posted this last week in a different thread. Think it requires its own thread.

This one has me worried about my family's safety and the safety of others if I crash into them.

Edit March 8th 2016:
New info posted

Bracket installation instructions:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...5V541-6371.pdf

Addendum to the above:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...5V541-1375.pdf

And Powerwagons are now not part of R46 recall
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...5V541-4914.pdf

Edit: February 6th 2016
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“Vehicles with track bar brackets found without cracked welds will be returned to the customer. A track bar reinforcement bracket - which is not currently available - will eventually be installed. FCA is making every effort to manufacture and secure these remedy parts as quickly as possible. The current ETA for these parts and repairs is February 2016 for vehicles with four-wheel drive, and April 2016 for 4x2 vehicles. FCA will contact these customers again, by mail, with a follow-up recall notice, when their parts are available.”
Edit: November 12th the first round of dealer instructions are published for the visual inspection for cracks in the welds.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...5V541-5721.pdf

Edit: November 22nd
Looks like the "bracket" for part two will be out in MARCH 2016...
Quote:
REMEDY:
Chrysler will notify owners, and dealers will inspect and install a reinforcement bracket over the front track bar bracket. Chrysler issued an interim notification to owners on October 16, 2015. Owners will receive a second notice when remedy parts become available. Parts are expected to be available in March 2016. Owners may contact Chrysler customer service at 1-800-853-1403. Chrysler's number for this recall is R46.
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SUMMARY:
Chrysler (FCA US LLC) is recalling certain model year 2014 Ram 2500 trucks and 2013-2014 Ram 3500 trucks and cab chassis manufactured October 9, 2012, to July 29, 2014. The affected vehicles may have inadequate welds securing the front track bar frame brackets, which may result in the bracket components separating from the frame.

CONSEQUENCE:
If the bracket components separate from the frame, the vehicle may be more difficult to steer and control, increasing the risk of a crash.

REMEDY:
The remedy for this recall is still under development. The recall is expected to begin October 9, 2015. Owners may contact Chrysler customer service at 1-800-853-1403. Chrysler's number for this recall is R46.
Edit: October 25th new info that's outdated already.

Quote:
REMEDY:
The remedy for this recall is still under development. Chrysler issued an interim notification to owners on October 16, 2015. The recall is expected to begin October 24, 2015.
This is the part that scares me

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On July 27, 2015, FCA US Chassis Frame Engineering reviewed possible inspection options with FCA US Materials Engineering and determined there was no reliable inspection method to detect if these particular welds had inadequate fusion.

One member on here had his fail!
https://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/20...l#post19539330

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I have a 2014 ram 2500 4x4 with 17k miles nothing but highway miles on the truck so far. I was driving down my road leaving the house when I heard a loud pop and lost control of my truck. Long story short some welds broke on the frame that are connected to my suspension. Has anyone ever heard of anything like this on a brand new truck? Any ideas how I should handle the issue Chrysler has had my truck for a month and it is still not fixed.
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They are sending me pictures I am very disappointed in the customer service that I have had from Chrysler. They just informed me they are taking about replacing the frame which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I will post the pictures when I get them. I'm hoping they stand by their work and give me a new truck I'm not sure I could trust that one again.
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Here are two better pics and a markup showing what looks to me like welds that are not fused. I think dieselwelder is right.
https://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/20...way-frame.html






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BS on the inspection part. the welds can be x-rayed to see if there is proper penatration. But the expence would be large on RAMs part but it would be reliable.

I work with a welder who used to be a weld inspector at the tank plant in Lima,ohio where the built the A1.

There is always a way to inspect a weld.



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Even though they will have more info on Oct 9th it will be weeks~months for parts and a service appointment.

So what's a guy to do here? Wait for Ram or get my truck to a certified (and trusted) welder?

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Unless you want to tear your truck and cut a sample of the weld out and look at it , there is not much you can do. A visual inspection wont give you much even if you use a paint stripper to remove the under coating, unless you really know what your looking at.

Something you could do is a daily check on it. Before you get in your truck stick your head under the truck and look for cracks around the track bar area.



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I'll def be looking at my build date

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Unless you want to tear your truck and cut a sample of the weld out and look at it , there is not much you can do. A visual inspection wont give you much even if you use a paint stripper to remove the under coating, unless you really know what your looking at.

Something you could do is a daily check on it. Before you get in your truck stick your head under the truck and look for cracks around the track bar area.



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Crawling under the truck daily to inspect frame welds at trac bar mount isn't a fun idea. But good exercise for those that need it

I would take it to a certified welder with proper equipment to verify a good weld is in place, if the dealer will not inspect for you. It is going to be a tough fix to get right as it involves frame welding/strengthening. It will be months before Ram will decide what to replace/repair and months to get the parts on hand. Definitely a lot of recalls for steering now after neglecting the previous years and offering buyback option for those trucks Ram does not want to get any more fines for waiting to long to recall new issues.

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Can't wait to see what they decide to do. My truck was built during this time. Not good.
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Can't wait to see what they decide to do. My truck was built during this time. Not good.
Same here. Mine was built June 2014. Also seen your from Abingdon, live right next door in Castlewood.

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Mine was build 07-08-14 @ 19:00 hours.
Looks like I have some rust under one of the welds




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What??? Another one???

I just got two of them back to back in the mail!

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Haven't had a chance to check mine out yet, going to first thing tomorrow. Makes it hard to enjoy driving the truck with this in the back of my mind. I mean what happens if these break going 70mph down the freeway.

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Probably be in a world of poop.

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