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Question What to buy... 4th gen or 3rd gen?

I am looking to buy a, new to me, dodge sometime this year. I for sure don't want a DEF model. What are the pros and cons of '10 and '11 over the 3rd gen trucks. I prefer simplicity, which leans to 3rd gen but I also prefer the 4th gen crew cab over the 3rd gen. What am I loosing by get the 4th gen. I would love to hear from some who have owned both 3rd gen and 4th gen. This may be my last diesel to buy as I have driven a 2000 F250 for 16 years. I don't put a lot of miles on one, about 116k in 16 years. I am anxious to hear your opinions!

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There is nothing simple on these trucks anymore. If you're going to upgrade then upgrade, a fourth GEN is a upgrade over a third GEN by far.
If you were going to be keeping your truck emissions legal then I would suggest using a system THAT utilizes DEF.

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i would look into a 12, I think that was the first year of the higher output (maybe 11.5). like N of 60 said, if you are keeping emissions intact, the DEF is miles ahead of the older emissions. The 4th gen interior/cab size is much nicer than 3rd gen. There really isn't much difference in chassis between the 3rd and 4th gen in the years you are looking at. budget plays a huge part in this....If i was going to keep one 15 years, I would probably go with atleast a 2014.
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I’m with the guys above. The DEF emissions setup is far superior to the pre-DEF.

If you’re planning on leaving it stock the 13+ is the way to go.

If you’re deleting anyway it doesn’t matter.

Also of note, the 13+ center stack and cluster setup is nicer than the 10-12 if you care.

The 4th gens overall are nicer than the 3rd in my opinion, I’ve had a couple of each.

If you’re looking at quad cabs then it’s no contest. The cab room in the 4th is much larger than the 3rd gens.


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Thank you guys! I am not interested in being emissions legal. I plan to delete or buy deleted. I am looking at a 2011 w/150k that has an h&s mini and has been deleted for $24000. I will probably drive this one until I die or can no longer drive, if all goes well.
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Thank you guys! I am not interested in being emissions legal. I plan to delete or buy deleted. I am looking at a 2011 w/150k that has an h&s mini and has been deleted for $24000. I will probably drive this one until I die or can no longer drive, if all goes well.
Go over your cooling system with a fine tooth comb due to the H&S on it. Find out what timing in Settings it was running on, etc. If Anarchy is still doing MCC on the 4th gens, get it done or move on to another tuning platform.

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I have a 2012 Laramie 2500 CC. Love the truck.
I upgraded from an '06 SLT MegaCab a little over 2 years ago. no regrets !
The 4th Gen does ride better then the '06.

Good luck on the test drive.
Note, w/ 150K on that 2011, make sure you check out the front end wheel bearings, u-joints and ball joints. Also check the service records and keep an eye out for fuel filter changes at every 10-12K.

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+1 on what’s above.

I think the old H&S issues were a result of timing and defuel settings.

Sounds like my old 11, was a great truck sold it to a guy out of El Dorado KS a couple years ago.

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So is running the H&S a problem? What I have read over the last few days, I thought it was a good option... Thank you for your input, I welcome all I can get.
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H&S is good tuning, you need to run the correct timing for different power levels. And with MCC tuning giving even more options. Once I was towing my 5th wheel with my MCC tunes and couldn’t keep my EGT’s where I needed them so I pulled off the interstate and downloaded the box tunes. My truck towed cooler on the box tow tune. I liked having options.

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EFI live is far superior to H&S tuning.

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