stockers or 35s on snow or ice

bdoneen · 10-10-2008, 01:24 AM

should i keep my stock wheels "pizza cutters" with just highway traction or would 35 12.5 toyo mts be better for snow and ice?

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mil81 · 10-10-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bdoneen

should i keep my stock wheels "pizza cutters" with just highway traction or would 35 12.5 toyo mts be better for snow and ice?

Your stockers would be better for ice. If it's just deep snow, the M/T would be much better, but for driving around town, the skinny, siped stockers would be much better. I'm taking my Toyo's off for winter. Sadly.

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schloe · 10-10-2008, 08:29 PM

Are the Toyo M/Ts crappy on ice? How come?

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99 Cummins Farm Truck · 10-10-2008, 08:35 PM

I went last winter on the toyos and they did ok on the deep snow and not that great on the ice really hard time getting traction if i was you i would buy the Nittos all terrain they worked very well in all of snow and ice and mud

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***D45*** · 10-10-2008, 08:38 PM

Just get the treads on the Toyos fully siped and they will be great in ice and snow.

Costs about $10 per tire at Discount Tire and adds phenominal amounts of traction, especially on an M/T tire

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mil81 · 10-10-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by D45

Just get the treads on the Toyos fully siped and they will be great in ice and snow.

Costs about $10 per tire at Discount Tire and adds phenominal amounts of traction, especially on an M/T tire

That's a solid point. The only reason I stopped using siped mudders for winters was the cost. They don't last half as long as a normal winter tire, and cost about twice as much. But they do work great, and still look cool.

Otherwise a mud tire is just not built for slippery stuff. The lugs are too big, the tire is too wide, and it just doesn't work well. The ideal ice tire is skinny with lots of sipes.

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ah64id · 10-11-2008, 12:05 PM

Normally a good skinny tire is best on ice.. .but the OE tire is not a good tire, IMHO. They are too stiff to be a good ice tire, they are more of an ice skate.. so in this situation the Toyo MT's will be better, and yes have them sipped.

These trucks are heavy enough that a 35 won't be horrible.. IMHO an 11" tire is about perfect for an empty CTD... You can go wider, but it will be a little less stable or you need more weight.

Also reduce the psi from what you would run in the summer.. It greatly increases the traction.

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bdoneen · 10-12-2008, 02:42 AM

thank you, awesome opinion and good points. hard taking advice about snow and ice from a guy in texas

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bigdiesel725 · 10-12-2008, 03:01 AM

i have 35 toyos and i love them there awesome go through anything with them

dandavis75 · 10-13-2008, 11:42 PM

well here ya go, i'm in casper wy, yes we just got 10 inches of the white crap sat night!!! and mud tires suck in hard pack snow or ice. had cooper stt's on for hunting season and whoa, slick...went back to the bfg, with lots of siping and narrower of course. the wider the tire the more surface area so the weight of the truck is spread out, less pressure on the slick stuff. that's why if you are ever in my neck of the woods all the old school ranchers are running those "pizza cutters", they get it done in the slick stuff,

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bdoneen Cummins Nut Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Spokane Posts: 347 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts bdoneen's Truck Pics	stockers or 35s on snow or ice should i keep my stock wheels "pizza cutters" with just highway traction or would 35 12.5 toyo mts be better for snow and ice? __________________ 2007 5.9 3500 SLT, K&N intake, CFM+ Intake Horn, Muffler Gonzo, ISSPRO Gauges, trans temp, boost, pyro Cobra 29 Classic w/Firestiks, Smarty JR stacked with POWERPUCK, 4 '' Tuff Country on 35 '' toyo MTs on stock wheels

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10-10-2008, 08:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
schloe Cummins Nut Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 347 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post schloe's Truck Pics	Are the Toyo M/Ts crappy on ice? How come? __________________ 2008 2500 6.7L, G56, 4x4, quad cab, short bed - 5" Expandit TBE w/ muffler, S&B intake, Shibby EGR & cooler delete, Valair 12.25" ceramic dual disk, Smarty 67, EV2 EGT gauge.

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99 Cummins Farm Truck Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phelan, California Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts 99 Cummins Farm Truck's Truck Pics	I went last winter on the toyos and they did ok on the deep snow and not that great on the ice really hard time getting traction if i was you i would buy the Nittos all terrain they worked very well in all of snow and ice and mud __________________ 99 Cummins,4x4, 35" Nitto Terra Grapplers T/A, 2007 Dodge Ram Rims, 5" exaust

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*D45* 305/555 POWER Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: INDIANA Posts: 1,592 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts D45's Truck Pics	Just get the treads on the Toyos fully siped and they will be great in ice and snow. Costs about $10 per tire at Discount Tire and adds phenominal amounts of traction, especially on an M/T tire __________________ '04 Quad Cab 3500 SRW LONG BED 4WD, 305/555 HO CTD, 37x12.50 on H2s, Fabtech 4.5" Lift/2.25" Dirt Logic Shocks, Radflo Steering Stab, PSC Steering Brace, MBRP 5" Straight Pipe, CFM+, IceBox Intake, Air Dog 150, ATS Pulse Flow Manifold, BD Super B Single Turbo, SMARTY SR POD, ARP Studs....

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ah64id Local Rotor Head.... Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 3,296 Thanks: 12 Thanked 55 Times in 46 Posts ah64id's Truck Pics	Normally a good skinny tire is best on ice.. .but the OE tire is not a good tire, IMHO. They are too stiff to be a good ice tire, they are more of an ice skate.. so in this situation the Toyo MT's will be better, and yes have them sipped. These trucks are heavy enough that a 35 won't be horrible.. IMHO an 11" tire is about perfect for an empty CTD... You can go wider, but it will be a little less stable or you need more weight. Also reduce the psi from what you would run in the summer.. It greatly increases the traction. __________________ 05 3500 QC LB NV5600 4X4 SRW Pricol's (EGT, Boost, DP, FP, Oil) Amsoiled, BMK-11 GDP MK-2+ w/ Cat 2 mic Smarty Jr Revo

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bdoneen Cummins Nut Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Spokane Posts: 347 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts bdoneen's Truck Pics	thank you, awesome opinion and good points. hard taking advice about snow and ice from a guy in texas __________________ 2007 5.9 3500 SLT, K&N intake, CFM+ Intake Horn, Muffler Gonzo, ISSPRO Gauges, trans temp, boost, pyro Cobra 29 Classic w/Firestiks, Smarty JR stacked with POWERPUCK, 4 '' Tuff Country on 35 '' toyo MTs on stock wheels

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bigdiesel725 Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lebanon,TN Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts bigdiesel725's Truck Pics	i have 35 toyos and i love them there awesome go through anything with them

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dandavis75 Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts dandavis75's Truck Pics	well here ya go, i'm in casper wy, yes we just got 10 inches of the white crap sat night!!! and mud tires suck in hard pack snow or ice. had cooper stt's on for hunting season and whoa, slick...went back to the bfg, with lots of siping and narrower of course. the wider the tire the more surface area so the weight of the truck is spread out, less pressure on the slick stuff. that's why if you are ever in my neck of the woods all the old school ranchers are running those "pizza cutters", they get it done in the slick stuff, __________________ 2006,4x4,3500 big horn, smarty jr, afe cold air, 2" revtech level kit, gear alloy 18x9 injectors, running 305/65/18 bfg at's, 08 front end replacement, 5" fbd tbe.