Alcoa's on a dually

dieselmex01 · 04-05-2007, 07:03 PM

I own a 2003 Dodge 3500, and have been looking into purchasing the 22.5" alcoa with a 10 lug conversion kit. I was just curious if after installing a leveling kit from KORE if there is still going to be a tire rubbing problem. Or, does anyone think that the 22.5's are a bad idea, and waste of money? Thanks for your input

RoyJ · 04-06-2007, 02:44 AM

Tire rub would depend on tire size. Don't know anything first hand so please don't quote me, but I've heard 245 tires fit for sure with a leveling kit on Doges, and maybe 265.

Also, what do you consider a "bad idea"? Those heavy rim and tires have a huge rotational inertia, which would no doubt put a strain on the axles and brakes, and suspension from all the unsprung weight.

On the other hand, if done properly, they look totally bad in an awsome way. For most, this reason alone is good enough. Obvious benefits would be superior behaviour at max load capacity - there won't even be a hint of sidewall flex.

I'd say stick with 245 wide tires and go for it!

Last edited by 1-TON : 04-06-2007 at 02:41 PM.

porkchopexpress · 04-06-2007, 08:58 AM

if your truck is a 4wd you wont even need a leveling kit.
i kinda like this site here American Force Wheels - Big Wheels for Big Trucks

if i remember correctly the 22.5 classic round hole are like 4500 for wheels and tires and another thousand for any other patterns.

the 19.5's are alot simpler, lighter, cheaper, easier to get, and still look pretty kickass in my opinion.

go here Rickson Truck Wheels and Accessories

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RoyJ · 04-07-2007, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by porkchopexpress

if your truck is a 4wd you wont even need a leveling kit.

I honestly don't know if I'd believe that. Their site clearly shows the 255/70r22.5 tires being 36" in diameter, and I've yet to see a stock 4x4 clear a 36", or even a leveled one for that matter. (though this tire is a pizza cutter compared to 36" all or mud terrains.

And I agree, if bling factor is not important, the Ricksons are much more practical.

porkchopexpress · 04-07-2007, 01:48 PM

yea i was just going off their site which says they will fit but says nothing about rubbing... i dont personally have any experience with them other than i want some pretty bad ... they are h e a v y - i asked the guy over the phone how much they weighed and he just laughed and said a ton

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RoyJ · 04-07-2007, 04:24 PM

No kidding. I've heard 245/70 19.5 G rated tires are 70+ lbs each. Bet the 265/70 22.5 semi tires are 100 lbs a piece atleast, plus 50 - 70lbs for the Alcoa rims (don't forget inner rims are steel).

Add in the weight of the 10 lug adaptors I bet you're looking at around 1000 - 1200 lbsof rolling weight for all 6 tires!

porkchopexpress · 04-08-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RoyJ

No kidding. I've heard 245/70 19.5 G rated tires are 70+ lbs each. Bet the 265/70 22.5 semi tires are 100 lbs a piece atleast, plus 50 - 70lbs for the Alcoa rims (don't forget inner rims are steel).

Add in the weight of the 10 lug adaptors I bet you're looking at around 1000 - 1200 lbsof rolling weight for all 6 tires!

put 1200 lbs in the bed of your truck and you wont really notice it
....but... 1200 lbs of moving weight equals out to like 6x the weight or something like that... i aint no math whiz but its a huge difference...
..... but.... they look cool, and to me, that generally is all that matters

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Z06-LITE · 04-12-2007, 03:22 PM

I have 22.5 Alcoas with 255/70 R 22.5 Hankook tires on my 2004 Dodge 3500 2wd dually. The tires are 36.9 inches tall and all I have is a 2 inch leveling kit on the front. The only rub I get is on sharp turns into a raised driveway. Then it is only on the rear of the tire at the inner plastic fender liner. I have been very happy with them in the three months they have been on my truck. I went to Miami, Fl to have American Force Wheel Co do the conversion. The tires, wheels, adapters, lug covers and center caps were $4200.00 installed. They charged an additional $300.00 to install the 2 inch leveling kit.

porkchopexpress · 04-13-2007, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Z06-LITE

I have 22.5 Alcoas with 255/70 R 22.5 Hankook tires on my 2004 Dodge 3500 2wd dually. The tires are 36.9 inches tall and all I have is a 2 inch leveling kit on the front. The only rub I get is on sharp turns into a raised driveway. Then it is only on the rear of the tire at the inner plastic fender liner. I have been very happy with them in the three months they have been on my truck. I went to Miami, Fl to have American Force Wheel Co do the conversion. The tires, wheels, adapters, lug covers and center caps were $4200.00 installed. They charged an additional $300.00 to install the 2 inch leveling kit.

any pics? did you notice any difference in get-up-and-go... mpg diff?

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Z06-LITE · 04-13-2007, 10:29 PM

I think the truck is a slight bit slower now on take off. My truck came with a 4:10 limited slip. I found a conversion chart that shows I now have the equivilent of about 3:50 final drive. My mpg is better by about two and a half to three mpgs. I will try to load some pics to my profile.

RoyJ · 04-17-2007, 07:33 PM

That must be one nice looking truck you got there, though I have to wonder how relative the "slight bit slower" is.

As we said before, you have about 1/2 ton in ROLLING weight! (versus probably 500 lbs before)

I can understand the hwy mileage being good, as a result of lower effective gearing and the lower resistence of the commercial rubber.

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dieselmex01 Tursel 1 Pulling Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 51 dieselmex01's Truck Pics	Alcoa's on a dually I own a 2003 Dodge 3500, and have been looking into purchasing the 22.5" alcoa with a 10 lug conversion kit. I was just curious if after installing a leveling kit from KORE if there is still going to be a tire rubbing problem. Or, does anyone think that the 22.5's are a bad idea, and waste of money? Thanks for your input

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04-06-2007, 02:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
RoyJ Cummins Fan Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 55 RoyJ's Truck Pics	Tire rub would depend on tire size. Don't know anything first hand so please don't quote me, but I've heard 245 tires fit for sure with a leveling kit on Doges, and maybe 265. Also, what do you consider a "bad idea"? Those heavy rim and tires have a huge rotational inertia, which would no doubt put a strain on the axles and brakes, and suspension from all the unsprung weight. On the other hand, if done properly, they look totally bad in an awsome way. For most, this reason alone is good enough. Obvious benefits would be superior behaviour at max load capacity - there won't even be a hint of sidewall flex. I'd say stick with 245 wide tires and go for it! Last edited by 1-TON : 04-06-2007 at 02:41 PM.

04-06-2007, 08:58 AM	#3 (permalink)
porkchopexpress Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 197 porkchopexpress's Truck Pics	if your truck is a 4wd you wont even need a leveling kit. i kinda like this site here American Force Wheels - Big Wheels for Big Trucks if i remember correctly the 22.5 classic round hole are like 4500 for wheels and tires and another thousand for any other patterns. the 19.5's are alot simpler, lighter, cheaper, easier to get, and still look pretty kickass in my opinion. go here Rickson Truck Wheels and Accessories __________________ 07 3500 4dr DRW 4x4 auto...

04-07-2007, 01:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
porkchopexpress Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 197 porkchopexpress's Truck Pics	yea i was just going off their site which says they will fit but says nothing about rubbing... i dont personally have any experience with them other than i want some pretty bad ... they are h e a v y - i asked the guy over the phone how much they weighed and he just laughed and said a ton __________________ 07 3500 4dr DRW 4x4 auto...

04-07-2007, 04:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
RoyJ Cummins Fan Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 55 RoyJ's Truck Pics	No kidding. I've heard 245/70 19.5 G rated tires are 70+ lbs each. Bet the 265/70 22.5 semi tires are 100 lbs a piece atleast, plus 50 - 70lbs for the Alcoa rims (don't forget inner rims are steel). Add in the weight of the 10 lug adaptors I bet you're looking at around 1000 - 1200 lbsof rolling weight for all 6 tires!

04-12-2007, 03:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
Z06-LITE Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Fl Posts: 6 Z06-LITE's Truck Pics	I have 22.5 Alcoas with 255/70 R 22.5 Hankook tires on my 2004 Dodge 3500 2wd dually. The tires are 36.9 inches tall and all I have is a 2 inch leveling kit on the front. The only rub I get is on sharp turns into a raised driveway. Then it is only on the rear of the tire at the inner plastic fender liner. I have been very happy with them in the three months they have been on my truck. I went to Miami, Fl to have American Force Wheel Co do the conversion. The tires, wheels, adapters, lug covers and center caps were $4200.00 installed. They charged an additional $300.00 to install the 2 inch leveling kit.

04-13-2007, 10:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
Z06-LITE Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Fl Posts: 6 Z06-LITE's Truck Pics	I think the truck is a slight bit slower now on take off. My truck came with a 4:10 limited slip. I found a conversion chart that shows I now have the equivilent of about 3:50 final drive. My mpg is better by about two and a half to three mpgs. I will try to load some pics to my profile.

04-17-2007, 07:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
RoyJ Cummins Fan Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 55 RoyJ's Truck Pics	That must be one nice looking truck you got there, though I have to wonder how relative the "slight bit slower" is. As we said before, you have about 1/2 ton in ROLLING weight! (versus probably 500 lbs before) I can understand the hwy mileage being good, as a result of lower effective gearing and the lower resistence of the commercial rubber.