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Old 03-03-2009, 02:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Putting a tube in a tubeless tire??

Hi guys,

I've never had to do this or be in a situation where I would have to do this until now. I was traveling and had stopped to get some lunch. I knew that I needed some new tires soon, so I've been looking through the classifieds in the newspapers whenever I stop looking for some decent deals. Well, I came across a set of 4 BFG MTs KM 35x12.50x17 with 60-70% tread for $225 for the set. I called him up, and the guys girlfriend had bought him the newer BFG KM2s for their anniversary so he was selling these to get them out of his garage.

I was fairly close, so I asked if he had anyone else thinking about getting them. He had someone coming in about 1 hour. So I hauled you know what and got there before the other guy and snagged them really quick. I didn't have the time to inspect them really thoroughly before I left.

Well, turns out one of the tires has a cut in the sidewall. It's a pretty good sized one as well (about 1-1.5 inches). I called a local tire shop to see what could be done, and they said about the only thing would be to put a tube in it.

So, what are the problems with doing this? Safety? What about if I need to tow something? Will going off road be a problem?

I would just buy a new tire, but it looks like they have stopped producing them in this size. I've only been able to find them at one place online and they are backordered.

Thanks in advance guys.
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The only issue i can see being possible is with the torque these trucks put out, you may actually "spin" the tire over the tube. If that were to happen you would tear the valve stem and be putting the spare on along side the road. I dont think i would be to torn up about it myself though!
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The only issue i can see being possible is with the torque these trucks put out, you may actually "spin" the tire over the tube. If that were to happen you would tear the valve stem and be putting the spare on along side the road. I dont think i would be to torn up about it myself though!
So, as long as I put it on one of the front non drive wheels I should be good, correct?

I should probably take this chance to buy another one as soon as I can find one to replace this bad one with. Then use the bad one to replace my stock spare.

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it should be ok. its what we do with tractors
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it should be ok. its what we do with tractors
Well then, I'll just have them mounted and put the tube in this weekend. Thanks guys!
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it should be ok. its what we do with tractors
Does your tractor go down the highway at 70mph?



Having a cut in the sidewall is scary, id get a new tire if it were me. I really have no experience with tubes in on-road vehicle tire, didnt even know they did that, but I wouldnt take the chance of having that sidewall come apart on the highway, might end up being a more costly mistake than a $250 tire...
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have to make sure your tube isnt rated for 25 mph or lower, otherwise should be fine. Semi's use to run tubes back in the day, with them good ol split rims.
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have to make sure your tube isnt rated for 25 mph or lower, otherwise should be fine. Semi's use to run tubes back in the day, with them good ol split rims.
Yeah, that's what I thought as well. At one time, didn't all tires run tubes? Granted, there is a reason that we don't run tubes today... The tire shop will be installing the tube, so I would hope that they wouldn't put a tube in rated for less than 25 mph.

So, I've got 3 votes yes and 1 vote no. Anybody else?
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can i they not put a patch on the inside!!
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can i they not put a patch on the inside!!
I suppose they could, but I know for sure that I would not trust a tire with a patch on the sidewall. Maybe as a spare, but that's it.

I just don't know anything about tubes, so I'm unsure as to whether they are safer and much sturdier than patches.

I guess that is the question, is putting a tube in a tire with a sidewall cut considerably safer than patching it? If it is similar in strength/safety/reliability to a sidewall patch, then I will most definitely NOT do it.
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we used to patch sidewalls at the shop all the time
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I dont think youll get a shop to patch a sidewall. too much liability My opinion is use the tire with a tube as a spare ,thats it. Many times we neglect safety for ourselves , but we share the roads with others. Sorry for the bad news
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